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What do we want? H5. When do we want it? Later!

Unread postby Orfinn » 30 Jan 2006, 12:33

People on the Heroic Corner forums went as far as claiming that the "Save Heroes" movement is Ubisoft and Nival's PR action.

It's true, isn't it, Angelspit? How many $$$ have you received from these corporate *******? ;)



Wouldnt surprise me if it was true, money, greed and persuasion are powerful allies in the marketing process. People get convinced pretty easly that this is the best thing to do, when people wawing with money in front of their faces as a lure.
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Unread postby Corribus » 30 Jan 2006, 14:41

Veldrynus wrote: Most people around here don't realize the fact, that all this 'Saveheroes' crap, is doing Ubisoft a big favor by placing the game in center of public attention . It is clever marketing:
It may very well be "clever" marketing (assuming everything was done intentionally), and it may very well work out in a good way for them, because it has been made so public, but that depends on what ultimately happens. The potential that it could all blow up in their faces if they don't make the right decisions is there.
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Re: What do we want? H5. When do we want it? Later!

Unread postby Bandobras Took » 30 Jan 2006, 14:53

Orfinn wrote:People on the Heroic Corner forums went as far as claiming that the "Save Heroes" movement is Ubisoft and Nival's PR action.

It's true, isn't it, Angelspit? How many $$$ have you received from these corporate *******? ;)



Wouldnt surprise me if it was true, money, greed and persuasion are powerful allies in the marketing process. People get convinced pretty easly that this is the best thing to do, when people wawing with money in front of their faces as a lure.
Edited on Mon, Jan 30 2006, 05:36 by Orfinn
[humor] Yes, we all know that Angelspit's in this whole CH thing for the money . . . [/humor]
Far too many people speak their minds without first verifying the quality of their source material.

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Re: What do we want? H5. When do we want it? Later!

Unread postby Corribus » 30 Jan 2006, 14:57

Bandobras Took wrote: [humor] Yes, we all know that Angelspit's in this whole CH thing for the money . . . [/humor]
Actually, now that you mention it, I saw Angelspit cruising around in a brand new shiny Bentley (dark green, to match his skin) the other day. I never really though much of it until now. Hmmm.... :S
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Unread postby Veldrynus » 30 Jan 2006, 14:58

It may very well be "clever" marketing (assuming everything was done intentionally), and it may very well work out in a good way for them, because it has been made so public, but that depends on what ultimately happens. The potential that it could all blow up in their faces if they don't make the right decisions is there.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. They can hardly screw it now.
I bet, in a few days, they will make some kind of an official announcement, with the message that the release was delayed. They will make it look like the fan protest had influenced them, so that everybody will be absolutely happy. Then fans will be overjoyed that their voices were heard, and praise the absolutely uber-cool Ubisoft, for being so nice and fullfiling the wishes of the devoted players. The whole 'drama' will have a positive outcome, esp. for Ubisoft who now has the best cards in hand ( good publicity too).
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Unread postby Corribus » 30 Jan 2006, 15:02

Veldrynus wrote:Yeah, that's what I was talking about. They can hardly screw it now.
I bet, in a few days, they will make some kind of an official announcement, with the message that the release was delayed. They will make it look like the fan protest had influenced them, so that everybody will be absolutely happy. Then fans will be overjoyed that their voices were heard, and praise the absolutely uber-cool Ubisoft, for being so nice and fullfiling the wishes of the devoted players. The whole 'drama' will have a positive outcome, esp. for Ubisoft who now has the best cards in hand ( good publicity too).
Yes this is how it very well could turn out. And I hope it does. If Ubisoft is smart they will take the opportunity that the fan sites have given them to gracefully delay the game and come out looking like the good guys. A lot of companies wouldn't do that, though - they would see bowing to the "angry masses" as setting a dangerous precedent.
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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 30 Jan 2006, 15:04

If they do use this opportunity and they actually use that extra month or whatever to truly polish the game, then everybody wins.
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Unread postby Corribus » 30 Jan 2006, 15:07

theLuckyDragon wrote:If they do use this opportunity and they actually use that extra month or whatever to truly polish the game, then everybody wins.
Exactly. And if they don't and publish the game anyway, what have we lost? Nothing. And what do you call an action that gives you the chance to reap rewards if it works and suffer nothing if it fails? That's what we call a smart move.
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Unread postby Veldrynus » 30 Jan 2006, 17:30

Veldrynus wrote: I bet, in a few days, they will make some kind of an official announcement, with the message that the release was delayed. They will make it look like the fan protest had influenced them, so that everybody will be absolutely happy. Then fans will be overjoyed that their voices were heard, and praise the absolutely uber-cool Ubisoft, for being so nice and fullfiling the wishes of the devoted players. The whole 'drama' will have a positive outcome, esp. for Ubisoft who now has the best cards in hand ( good publicity too).
Damnit ! I was wrong about the "few days" ! Stupid, stupid me ! :wall:
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 30 Jan 2006, 17:37

Dont be so hard on yourself V.Few days is quite a relative term :devil:


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