7th Race/Faction?

asandir · Unread postby **asandir** » 19 May 2006, 08:27

i played it a lot, and besides being a bit resource hungry, just found it awesomely powerful

dragonn · Unread postby **dragonn** » 19 May 2006, 08:59

stefan.urlus wrote:i played it a lot, and besides being a bit resource hungry, just found it awesomely powerful

The town was really expensive. It had some very good units: Air Elementals (the strongest 2nd level?), Ice Elementals were quite good, and of course Psychic/Magic and Firebird/Phoenix were are also quite strong. Conflux has the greatest Grail Structure - gives all spells. Nevertheless Sprites, Fire/Energy and Earth/Magma are tragicaly weak...

asandir · Unread postby **asandir** » 19 May 2006, 09:10

but i think more than compensated for by the magic abilities

dragonn · Unread postby **dragonn** » 19 May 2006, 09:12

stefan.urlus wrote:but i think more than compensated for by the magic abilities

Well I didn't use them very often. And, although it is logical, it's frustrating that some spells have double effect on some elemetals...

asandir · Unread postby **asandir** » 19 May 2006, 09:28

yeah, true .... but they had to have some weaknesses, otherwise it woulda been even worse for balance

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 19 May 2006, 10:38

stefan.urlus wrote:not like the old conflux then orfinn

I always liked the conflux,even though they were quite expensive.And they couldnt be rushed.You had to build your dwelings in order.

Evenshade · Unread postby **Evenshade** » 19 May 2006, 17:10

So, the possibility arises of a serpent/sea faction, eh? Most interesting...

It's probably more than a bit too early to start guessing what creatures it contains, but when has that ever stopped anyone?

Lvl 1: Nixie/Naiad
Lvl 2: Lizardman/Lizard Warrior
Lvl 3: Serpent Fly/Coatl
Lvl 4: Medusa Acolyte/Medusa Priestess
Lvl 5: Sea Serpent/Basilisk
Lvl 6: Naga/Naga Queen
Lvl 7: Kraken/Leviathan

And a Dwarven-style Stronghold? If it's true, I am aquiver with anticipation.

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 19 May 2006, 17:45

The expansion pack will probably have the dwarven faction, then?

Thelonious · Unread postby **Thelonious** » 19 May 2006, 18:04

Most probably.

Oh, and a note, I've put my dwarven town on the official forums. Let's see what Ubi will do.

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 19 May 2006, 18:22

Thelonious wrote:Most probably.

Oh, and a note, I've put my dwarven town on the official forums. Let's see what Ubi will do.

The problem with the dwarven faction would be that the mythological creatures are not going to be connected with each other.

For example, the Necropolis faction consists of all of the undead creatures. Inferno has all of the demons. And now, the Dungeons faction is somewhat uninteresting because they have the Dark Elves and some other random creatures that make sense to belong in there only because of the lore of the 5th HoMM. Minoutars and elves... just dont fit.

So yeah, hope you understand what im talking about.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 19 May 2006, 18:39

Purple Sky wrote:For example, the Necropolis faction consists of all of the undead creatures. Inferno has all of the demons. And now, the Dungeons faction is somewhat uninteresting because they have the Dark Elves and some other random creatures that make sense to belong in there only because of the lore of the 5th HoMM. Minoutars and elves... just dont fit.

So yeah, hope you understand what im talking about.

Read Thelonious proposal.It connects dwarves with golems in a very nice way.Also,there are very nice proposals here.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 19 May 2006, 18:45

Purple Sky wrote: And now, the Dungeons faction is somewhat uninteresting because they have the Dark Elves and some other random creatures that make sense to belong in there only because of the lore of the 5th HoMM. Minotaurs and elves... just dont fit.

You mean the lore of Forgotten Realms. The Drow have Minotaur slaves among many other races. If it works in D&D...

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 19 May 2006, 18:55

Dont know much about D&D. But from what i played in the computer games, never saw any minotour slaves. Minotours live on the ground in D&D, me thinks.

And the golem idea sounds good. Although the Academy already took that.

Hmmm, maybe the dwarves should be something like technologists.

Thelonious · Unread postby **Thelonious** » 19 May 2006, 18:57

Purple Sky wrote:The problem with the dwarven faction would be that the mythological creatures are not going to be connected with each other.

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So yeah, hope you understand what im talking about.

But then look at Academy. I hope you get what I mean

check it out, you might just like my proposal.

theLuckyDragon · Unread postby **theLuckyDragon** » 19 May 2006, 19:04

I think I read this before, and I liked it. One thing thoug: the Behemoths don't really seem to fit so well. All the other units are centered on the theme of animation or the dwarven skills, and suddenly the 7th level creature is tamed.

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 19 May 2006, 19:16

Thelonious wrote:
Purple Sky wrote:The problem with the dwarven faction would be that the mythological creatures are not going to be connected with each other.

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So yeah, hope you understand what im talking about.
But then look at Academy. I hope you get what I mean

check it out, you might just like my proposal.

You got the idea done well. However, i think that it lacks true mythological beasts. The behemonth doesnt really fit in to it either.

Also, i still think that dwarves should be something like magical-technologists. See example: gremlins.

The naga factions sounds crappy. Nagas, in my opinion, are not powerful eneugh to deserve a faction.

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 19 May 2006, 19:17

theLuckyDragon wrote:I think I read this before, and I liked it. One thing thoug: the Behemoths don't really seem to fit so well. All the other units are centered on the theme of animation or the dwarven skills, and suddenly the 7th level creature is tamed.

Well since mountians dont have that much wildlife and one of the few wild animals are behemoths, why not? I guess mountain goats are the behemoths source of food.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 19 May 2006, 19:22

Purple Sky wrote:You got the idea done well. However, i think that it lacks true mythological beasts. The behemonth doesnt really fit in to it either.

And it must have mythological beasts why?

Purple Sky wrote: Also, i still think that dwarves should be something like magical-technologists. See example: gremlins.

Please,no!No forge town.Maybe in HoMM40k,but not here.

Purple Sky wrote: The naga factions sounds crappy. Nagas, in my opinion, are not powerful eneugh to deserve a faction.

They are way stronger and better then elves IMO.

Darkstroem · Unread postby **Darkstroem** » 19 May 2006, 19:29

DaemianLucifer wrote: They are way stronger and better then elves IMO.

They are as strong as the in-game universe defines them.

I wouldn't mind a Naga faction as long as we get the Orcs.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 19 May 2006, 19:31

Darkstroem wrote:I wouldn't mind a Naga faction as long as we get the Orcs.

I wouldnt mind any race as long as they have absolutely no more humans and elves.

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