Ultimate Necromacy

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:29

Hi all! I just started playing HommV TOTE and my favorit faction so far is necropolis. I have played a few games, but I never succeeded to get ultimate necromance. Should I get to a certain lvl first?
Also, wich unit is better, vampire lord or prins? I get the feeling the lord is better because of the no enemy retaliation, but I'm not sure.

I hope this is the right place to post this.

The Mad Dragon · Unread postby **The Mad Dragon** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:40

Ah, Necropolis, my favorite faction. The one faction I can give advice on.

Imo, do not go for the ultimate. It is truly not worth it. There are far better things to get than that. However, if you feel compelled to go after it, here are the skills that you must choose to acquire it.

Expert Dark Magic/Master of Curses/Master of Pain/Dark Renewal

Expert Summoning Magic/Master of Conjuration/Master of Life/Banish

Expert Enlightenment/Schlar/Arcane Exaltation/Lord of the Undead

Banshee Howl/Eternal Servitude/Mark of the Necromancer.

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:50

You're talking about howl of terror right? I guess I didn't explained it right. I meant I never get the basic-advanced-expert-Ultimate necromancy skill.
Or do you get it when you learn howl of terror?

The Mad Dragon · Unread postby **The Mad Dragon** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:56

Ohhhh. That. I'm actually not too sure what determines how you get it. I would think it'd be level based.

PhoenixReborn · Unread postby **PhoenixReborn** » 22 Dec 2007, 18:59

You can get up to expert necromancy through regular leveling. To get ultimate necromancy you need the ultimate pendant.

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:00

My first thought to, but know I have a lvl 24 hero, and I still didn't get it. Well, maybe I just need to get it even more higher. So what do you think is the best unit? Vampire Lord or Vampire prins?

Tensho · Unread postby **Tensho** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:09

I prefer Vampire lords(and cast vampirism on them=imba

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The Mad Dragon · Unread postby **The Mad Dragon** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:10

Ultimate pendant?

aaelgr · Unread postby **aaelgr** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:25

The Pendant of Mastery.

Tensho wrote:I prefer Vampire lords(and cast vampirism on them=imba )

I didn't realise you could cast Vampirism on Vampires. How does it help them? Do they drain a larger amount of the damage they do?

Nelgirith · Unread postby **Nelgirith** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:38

aaelgr wrote:
Tensho wrote:I prefer Vampire lords(and cast vampirism on them=imba )
I didn't realise you could cast Vampirism on Vampires. How does it help them? Do they drain a larger amount of the damage they do?

It doubles their life drain, so does it with the Aranthir's Avatar of Death.

Grumpy Old Wizard · Unread postby **Grumpy Old Wizard** » 22 Dec 2007, 19:54

I *much* prefer the vampire lords because of the no retaliation strike. Not only is it better for preventing losses but if you phantom forces them the phantom attacks with no retaliation too.

GOW

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 22 Dec 2007, 20:30

PhoenixReborn wrote:You can get up to expert necromancy through regular leveling. To get ultimate necromancy you need the ultimate pendant.

So where do I find this ultimate pendum? I don't see it with the artifacts.

Wurtzel · Unread postby **Wurtzel** » 23 Dec 2007, 04:13

Ultimate Pendant is actually Pendant of Mastery, an artifact that you wear round the neck.. PhoenixReborn wasn't very specific. (shame on him for misleading a newcomer)

The Mad Dragon · Unread postby **The Mad Dragon** » 23 Dec 2007, 04:35

And where do you get it? Or is it random?

parcaleste · Unread postby **parcaleste** » 23 Dec 2007, 05:35

The Mad Dragon wrote:... Imo, do not go for the ultimate. It is truly not worth it...

Yes and no, cause with it, your opponent will be forced to use some artifacts to boost his Morale, that will not be in very use at all... Otherwise, I find useless two of the Summoning Secondary Skills, expect if you are not playing against Demons, than Banish MAY come in use...

But I was wondering more about the Elemental Chain... is it does enough damage at all? Esp. compared with Nature's Luck?

And about the Arcane Omniscience - I find it a bit useless as well. When it's said ALL the spells it doesn't mean all of them at all - where are the Mass Spells? Bah!

And again, otherwise is nice to have all of the Ultimates, just to settle some COOL stuff in the castles, boost the necromacy abilitie or whatever

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 23 Dec 2007, 10:56

Thanks for all the help! I'll try to find the pendant of mastary, I thought I found it but it was the pendant of conflux...

parcaleste · Unread postby **parcaleste** » 23 Dec 2007, 15:41

Guess I have underestimated the Warlock (Ultimate) - Lucretia was totally DESTROYED in that battle and even with "Chilling Bones" and "Bone Ward" + some artifacts for spells resistance Well, guess that the "Power of Dragons" during the game and "Lion's Spirit" during the battle helped... a bit A Warlock Luck to have merchant in the Castle and two merchants around it I guess

Tensho · Unread postby **Tensho** » 24 Dec 2007, 14:05

aaelgr wrote:The Pendant of Mastery.
Tensho wrote:I prefer Vampire lords(and cast vampirism on them=imba )
I didn't realise you could cast Vampirism on Vampires. How does it help them? Do they drain a larger amount of the damage they do?

You didnt know?I guess vampirism would be nerfed sooner or later....better to use vampirism than ressurection.
Also,''Regeneration'' will be removed i guess.I love to cast it on my 1000-2000 hp phoenix

Qurqirish Dragon · Unread postby **Qurqirish Dragon** » 24 Dec 2007, 14:11

parcaleste wrote:
And about the Arcane Omniscience - I find it a bit useless as well. When it's said ALL the spells it doesn't mean all of them at all - where are the Mass Spells? Bah!

Considering that you don't need any spell schools to get AO, it is like getting 4 extra primary skills! (realistically, you will probably want one or two schools to use some of the better spells before you get AO). Also, since scholar is a prerequisite, the hero with AO can teach all your secondary heroes every spell that they are able to learn - great when hiring new heores for defending a newly capture town.

HOMMV_N00B · Unread postby **HOMMV_N00B** » 24 Dec 2007, 16:17

another question about the necro faction:
Isn't spectral dragon better then ghost? I gives a -1 moral to every enemy untit by just standing there.
And is it worth buying one of them anyway?

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