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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 09:28

I think this is one of the greatests creatures in the game,because the phoenix can have 2000 hp and 500 dmg.Isn't it great?It is sad that you can have only one phoenix in battle and that he can't be recruitet from the town or from the map(I think),but he is frong enough to beat every creature.I'm right???

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Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 06 Jun 2006, 13:24

Well, it's true it's probably the strongest creature in the game, thus why you can only get one and can't recruit them normally.

An army of 10+ phoenixes would be pretty much unstoppable.

Also, the phoenix's strength is directly dependant on your hero's abilities. So the stronger the hero that summons it, the stronger the phoenix will be.

My record so far was summoning a phoenix with 108 attack and 96 defense 8|

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Unread postby Orfinn » 06 Jun 2006, 13:27

Insane stats indeed.

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Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 06 Jun 2006, 13:32

Needless to say, it "pwned" every thing the computer threw at me :P

I was nearing end-game too, thus my hero had pretty high stats himself (I guess, I haven't checked his stats).

However, I'm somewhat dissapointed in the phoenix graphics. It looks more like a flying fire elemental (H5 fire elemental) than an actual "flaming bird".

It's still pretty much kickass tho.

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Unread postby Asjo » 06 Jun 2006, 13:42

Well, the colours used on it are quite good, but it's true that you cannot really make out its figure, so it doesn't look that much like a bird of any kind . . .

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 06 Jun 2006, 13:44

I think it looks more like a crane then anything else.

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Re: The Phoenix

Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 06 Jun 2006, 16:28

Paffka wrote:I think this is one of the greatests creatures in the game,because the phoenix can have 2000 hp and 500 dmg.Isn't it great?It is sad that you can have only one phoenix in battle and that he can't be recruitet from the town or from the map(I think),but he is frong enough to beat every creature.I'm right???
Only the summoned creature has those stats,and they depend on your spellpower.Neutral phoenixes are weaker,but they still are very strong,especially because of the fire shield and 100% rebirth(a bit too strong).

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 18:24

The Phoenix are not only ugly because they are looking like fire elementals(flying),the attack of the phoenix is to ugly too.They bite and this is stuppid for a flaming bird.But they are still very strong.

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Re: The Phoenix

Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 06 Jun 2006, 18:44

DaemianLucifer wrote:
Paffka wrote:I think this is one of the greatests creatures in the game,because the phoenix can have 2000 hp and 500 dmg.Isn't it great?It is sad that you can have only one phoenix in battle and that he can't be recruitet from the town or from the map(I think),but he is frong enough to beat every creature.I'm right???
Only the summoned creature has those stats,and they depend on your spellpower.Neutral phoenixes are weaker,but they still are very strong,especially because of the fire shield and 100% rebirth(a bit too strong).
There's a Neutral "stack" of phoenix(es)!? 8|
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Re: The Phoenix

Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 06 Jun 2006, 18:46

5il3nc3r wrote: There's a Neutral "stack" of phoenix(es)!? 8|
Neat!
But of course.I fought some of them in the dreaded second campaigns third map.And even though I had a masive army,I still had lots of losses(damn fire shield!)

And their attack is ugly.Each time I saw them attacking I hoped to see the flame,but instead it was a disapointing bite :disagree:
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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 18:46

Of course there is a neutral stack of phoenix,but they are much more weaker than the summoned.

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Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 06 Jun 2006, 18:47

Well, I have yet to go farther than the first campaign (got tired of it pretty fast)

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 18:47

I have one question.Can you use leadership to make the neutral phoenixes join you???

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Unread postby Purple Sky » 06 Jun 2006, 18:48

The phoenic rebirth ability makes a man loose a couple of dozen brain cells.

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 06 Jun 2006, 18:49

Paffka wrote:I have one question.Can you use leadership to make the neutral phoenixes join you???
Not in campaigns,because stacks are fully scripted in there,but on non campaign maps,probably.Oh,and I think theres a mentioning that youll use phoenixes in later campaigns.

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 18:49

Yes their abillity is to powerfull,but when you have archers,wich are shooting 2 times you can kill them all with one attack(turn).

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Unread postby Psychobabble » 07 Jun 2006, 03:35

In the last map of the druid campaign you can get non-summoned phoenixes through a quest.

As for the summoned one, it's unbelievably powerful. As I said in another thread I finished the last map of the necro campaign with nothing more than my starting creatures, a group of wights which join you and that spell :).

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 07 Jun 2006, 04:53

Paffka wrote:Yes their abillity is to powerfull,but when you have archers,wich are shooting 2 times you can kill them all with one attack(turn).
Actually you cant.Their rebirth will kick in after they die,yet hunters fire both arrows before the creature dies.

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Unread postby Paffka » 07 Jun 2006, 06:30

I've tried with hunters they can kill them all.

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 07 Jun 2006, 06:34

Paffka wrote:I've tried with hunters they can kill them all.
Well thats nice.Although its stupid that hunters waste their arrow when they can kill a stack with just one,yet they dont waste it on phoenixes.


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