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There is not enough resources...

Unread postby blueparrot1966 » 29 May 2006, 15:44

First, to be fair, two things- 1) HMM III had about 6th grade level writing quality in the stories, sad but true. and 2) This is a game made by people who are not native English speakers, and I'm glad they even HAVE an English version.

But fer chrissakes guys. There is not enough resources? With the millions that go into the production of a game, how much more time and effort is it to have a competent English speaker vet the text contents of a game? Are the non English versions of this game this rocky, can anyone tell me?

(sigh) I see this year after year, and the writing is no better even when the designers ARE English speaking. It's embarrassing. And people wonder why computer gaming is still considered kid stuff by the mainstream...

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 29 May 2006, 17:10

blueparrot1966 wrote:1) HMM III had about 6th grade level writing quality in the stories, sad but true.
Maybe 6th grade where ur from. It's at least 9th grade down here. Mostly because it doesn't make you wonder how those people ever passed 1st grade.

And the Original H3 campaign is leaps and bound better then the H5 one, storywise.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 29 May 2006, 17:35

It's all about bad Engrish.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 29 May 2006, 17:36

@DL
Nah.... i probalby mean US TO BELONG ARE BASE YOUR ALL.


And when did the mainstream know about great stories anyway? They think it's kids stuff because that's how it's been marketed.
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Unread postby blueparrot1966 » 29 May 2006, 17:42

Don't know what you're getting at exactly, Titan, but I was done with 6th grate in 1977. :-D Yep, it's all about bad Engrish. Things like "ur" drive me up the wall too. ne one else agree?

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Unread postby Metathron » 29 May 2006, 17:44

blueparrot1966 wrote: But fer chrissakes guys. There is not enough resources? With the millions that go into the production of a game, how much more time and effort is it to have a competent English speaker vet the text contents of a game? Are the non English versions of this game this rocky, can anyone tell me?

(sigh) I see this year after year, and the writing is no better even when the designers ARE English speaking. It's embarrassing. And people wonder why computer gaming is still considered kid stuff by the mainstream...
I heartily agree here but disagree about HoMM III. In my opinion that game had great campaigns and competent writing, as did the rest of the series for the most part.

Beats me why the HoMM V team didn't invest into a relatively skilled speaker/student/translator of english. I'm sure it's not that big of a distraction to the majority of players, but to myself, being a student of languages (and the English language in particular), it is above-average annoying I guess.
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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 29 May 2006, 17:46

Well, the next time Markal tells Godric "All your Castles are belong to us", we'll know what's going on!

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Unread postby blueparrot1966 » 29 May 2006, 17:47

Oh, don't get me wrong. The campaigns of HMM III were great, and even the basic game came with TONS of good content. HMM III is in my personal top 10 of all time gaming goodness. But the quality of the writing was still lousy, lol.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 29 May 2006, 18:56

Metathron wrote: I heartily agree here but disagree about HoMM III. In my opinion that game had great campaigns and competent writing, as did the rest of the series for the most part.
I belive he means that they weren't written by a true man of letters.



The thing about the 9th grade was about the things that end up in the national test between 8th and 9th grade where i'm from. Saying they lack logic is an understatement.
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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 29 May 2006, 19:05

I don't know what you mean with the grades, but the national tests between 8th and 9th don't include a foreign language exam.
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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 29 May 2006, 19:08

6th grade level writing quality
Notice something?
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Unread postby asandir » 30 May 2006, 01:27

it would be nice if they paid someone who wasn't a junior to do the grammar and spelling checks into english, hey, i'm available

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Unread postby asandir » 30 May 2006, 01:30

while i'm going strong, can i just say

There ARE not enough resources

and ur is not something that irritates me, but the misuse of your and you're.

You use your when something belongs to you .... your jacket, your dog etc, you're is used in place of You Are .... you're not very smart, you're an illiterate peasant etc ;)

:-D

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 30 May 2006, 04:19

stefan.urlus wrote:you're not very smart, you're an illiterate peasant etc ;)

:-D
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Unread postby asandir » 30 May 2006, 04:39

Did you here that, did you here that, eh
unless im missing a joke here

Did you hear that, did you hear that, eh


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Unread postby vicheron » 30 May 2006, 04:49

Heroes 3, The Restoration of Erathia at least, was very light on exposition. There quality of the existing story was quite passable, it was the lack of plot development that was the problem. Luckily, the plot development got much better in Armageddon's Blade, Shadow of Death, and Heroes 4.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 30 May 2006, 05:35

stefan.urlus wrote: unless im missing a joke here
You're missing a joke... BIG TIME.

On a side note:

WARNING: Grammar Police WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!

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Really folks... GET A LIFE.

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Unread postby asandir » 30 May 2006, 06:10

come on wolfshanze ... where's your sense of adventure?? :-D

so what joke did i miss?? go on, share

i don't normally comment on grammar or spelling in boards, since most people either type in a hurry and make a mistake, or simply don't know how to spell or structure a sentence ... but i am especially wary of doing it on boards with an international membership, due to english being a second language for a lot of people, besides, if i can understand what they're saying it doesn't really matter ...

i try not to let my prejudices run away with me ;)

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Unread postby Humakt » 30 May 2006, 09:13

Wolfshanze wrote:
stefan.urlus wrote:you're not very smart, you're an illiterate peasant etc ;)

:-D
Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you? What are you then... a King?

Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By exploitin' the workers -- by 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress--

Oh, never mind... you're no fun anymore.
I wonder if you had to check that up or could spell it out of your memory.

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