Your "favorite" 3rd lvl creature (H3)

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 03 Mar 2006, 10:20

This round its time for bringing forth the 3rd lvl creatures

I didnt include the neutrals from AB since I dont remember which of them besides the dragons and the gold/diamond golems that are 3rd level units.
So I included a "Other" option poll below.

My favorite creature this time around gotta be the Wood/Grand Elves, not surprisingly one of the best low level shooters out there and they look cool too

Banedon · Unread postby **Banedon** » 03 Mar 2006, 11:02

This one is completely obvious - the Grand Elves win it by an enormous stretch. They're so good it's the main reason why I'd ever pick Rampart in a game (not counting Logistics specialists, of course).

Pol · Unread postby **Pol** » 03 Mar 2006, 11:42

* This is completely obvious - The Iron Golems win it through theirs magic resistance, thing which come to you so handy when fighting Mages&Faerie Dragons. That's reason why I always stretch for them and place them into my armies.

Pretty looks like this is another kinda of RT gimmick questions. By the way wasn't that specialization of our Lordship_Oliver?

Bandobras Took · Unread postby **Bandobras Took** » 03 Mar 2006, 14:43

Voted Orc/Orc Chieftain

You asked for my favorite, not for the best.

But seriously, they're a very cheap unit and give the Stronghold what it needs -- a ranged attacker in the early game.

Vlad976 · Unread postby **Vlad976** » 03 Mar 2006, 14:46

vote Wraith
Spellpoint draining has helped me out of a jam a few times...

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 03 Mar 2006, 15:16

With "favorite" Im including the look, the style and the creatures usfulness (you think its best because etc....)

My second choice goes to the serpent/dragon flies, I seriously hate to encounter those things, but I love when I have them too. They always snap at my ranged troops, they have the painful dispel ability which remove the protective buffs my archers have making them even more vurnerable to the flies following attacks and other enemy troops and they can cross a great distance fast. Especially with Terek as Hero (haste and tactics) they are even more irritating to get rid of.

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 03 Mar 2006, 18:20

Voted Serpent/Dragon Flies as well. Nasty little bugs, they are. Griffins are also very nice.

Corribus · Unread postby **Corribus** » 03 Mar 2006, 18:53

Lot of good creatures.

I voted royal griffons. Available in great numbers and multi-retaliation is a big plus along with their great speed which often ensures first strike. They are also "large" which makes them good for protecting ranged units. They are easily killed, sure, but their large numbers makes up for it.

I also agree that serpent flies and grand elves are close seconds. Never liked the golems much I have to be honest. Too slow except for castle defense... but they do have their uses.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 03 Mar 2006, 20:10

The Elves, the Elves, send in the Elves.

I really love the buggers. Royal Griphons look cool also, but I really like ranged creatures, and double shoot rules.

LordHoborgXVII · Unread postby **LordHoborgXVII** » 03 Mar 2006, 22:13

Definitely the elves, especially the grand elves with their two shots and nice crisp appearance. LvL3 creatures always were rather odd, because they always appeared surprisingly weak in battle, especially when you controlled them. They're not lvl 1's or 2's, so I don't tend to think of them as strictly 'meat shield,' and yet they lack the soldidity of lvl4's. They're hard to place generally.

LordScimitar · Unread postby **LordScimitar** » 04 Mar 2006, 01:20

Its funny. To me, this is one of the levels of troops that to me have no inbetween.

Cerebrus, 3 pronged attack/no retaliation, Evil Eyes with great ranged potential and NO melee penalty, and Grand Elves are just awesome.

Then...there's the rest. Dragon Flies have have speed, yes, but late game they're just useless. Even middle game they'll give you first strike but they may just DIE in that first strike.

Wights...c'mon. Orcs? Compared to Grand Elves, nothing. Ice Elementals? Eh...ok, maybe they are the inbetween. Golems are durable, but, by the time they reach me, my archers have ripped them in shreds. Or, archers are running around the battlefield avoiding the golems and whittling them down.

Banedon · Unread postby **Banedon** » 04 Mar 2006, 04:14

Bandobras Took wrote:Voted Orc/Orc Chieftain

You asked for my favorite, not for the best.

But seriously, they're a very cheap unit and give the Stronghold what it needs -- a ranged attacker in the early game.

Odd. When I play Stronghold it's a flat-out race for Thunderbirds, with which I destroy neutrals. Orcs never come into the equation.

kitcat0 · Unread postby **kitcat0** » 04 Mar 2006, 09:34

I'm sticking to my cerberi. Takes down any other 3rd level creature. Elves are of course very good too.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 04 Mar 2006, 10:20

Voted elves,since I love ranged units,and elves are the second best(after titans,of course)amongst the town archers.

Black Ghost · Unread postby **Black Ghost** » 04 Mar 2006, 11:43

Voted Wood Elves

They are priceless. A backbone of Rampart. Extremly useful and strong unit.
Second to elves is Dragon Fly which is difficult opponent, and very good troop.

gravyluvr · Unread postby **gravyluvr** » 04 Mar 2006, 13:22

I'd vote elves but I don't agree with everyone about the dragon flies.

I use these as single stack hero companions for my fortress troops and have enabled a lot of long distance daisy chain trading to load troops and materials in my supply line. They allow the swamp walkers army to be used very efficiently.

I rarely use them in battles with Neutrals since they are targeted by the AI first (even above ranged units), but I do use them in key battles. The reason the AI and other players will attack them is only obvious if you horde them. In a big stack this fast little flyer is absolutely devastating. Try it sometime.

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 04 Mar 2006, 14:08

Thats weird noone voted for the ice elementals? They are dangerous, worth their water eh ice in the gold needed, its one of my most hated enemies, their ice bolt attacks are a serious pain in sieges

LordScimitar · Unread postby **LordScimitar** » 04 Mar 2006, 14:50

Orfinn wrote:Thats weird noone voted for the ice elementals? They are dangerous, worth their water eh ice in the gold needed, its one of my most hated enemies, their ice bolt attacks are a serious pain in sieges

Then why didn't YOU vote for them?

Gljivko a.k.a Vortex · Unread postby **Gljivko a.k.a Vortex** » 04 Mar 2006, 15:15

Voted for Stone Golem/Iron Golem beacuse they come from my favourite faction.
As for the best upgrade, my vote will go to the elves->grand elves. The reason is same just like with the marksman - 2x shot

But for the best upgrade there should be different poll

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 04 Mar 2006, 18:20

LordScimitar wrote:
Orfinn wrote:Thats weird noone voted for the ice elementals? They are dangerous, worth their water eh ice in the gold needed, its one of my most hated enemies, their ice bolt attacks are a serious pain in sieges
Then why didn't YOU vote for them?

Because elves are better and the ice elemental is my 4th choice

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