25th Anniversary Artwork

XEL II · Unread postby **XEL II** » 12 Jul 2011, 12:09

GreatEmerald wrote:
XEL II wrote:In MM VIII, which takes place after the Demon Wars, he is much more recovered, and shaved his beard.
Or, you know, they just reused the sprite from MM7 (the guy in the town hall of Harmondale).

That doesn't mean he didn't shave his beard.

XEL II · Unread postby **XEL II** » 12 Jul 2011, 12:11

MMXAlamar wrote:lol I wonder why Ubi seems to love Crag Hack so much?
Edited on Tue, Jul 12 2011, 08:07 by MMXAlamar

Same here. Many people elevate Sandro to the status of some "god of all Might and Magic", they're overestimating him. He;s a significant and charismatic character, but not the most important symbol of MM. Same with Enrothian Crag Hack.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 12 Jul 2011, 13:19

@Xel

To the majority of HoMM fans they're probably the most known...

Although i for one would have never realised that was supposed to be Sandro...

hellegennes · Unread postby **hellegennes** » 12 Jul 2011, 14:08

@ΤΤ:

Since he is just a skeleton with a hood, you are forgiven. It could have been any lich with a hood. Or it could be Ethric without his crown, just his outfit when he went shopping.

@XELL II:

Still, shaved or not, it's a shame Roland got to share his icon with a random guy from MM7. IF they wanted to reuse something, they could have reused his own from MM7. And by the way, it's not just the beard. He looks completely different between incarnations. His portrait from H2 looks nothing like all his other portraits. The only thing matching is his hair colour.

XEL II · Unread postby **XEL II** » 12 Jul 2011, 14:37

MM VII/AB portait looks similar enough to HoMM II one to me. After all, in the former he's around 15 years older than in the latter.

GreatEmerald · Unread postby **GreatEmerald** » 12 Jul 2011, 15:25

XEL II wrote:That doesn't mean he didn't shave his beard.

That means that you shouldn't look into it so much. If it was a black square, you wouldn't say that he turned into a shadow, now would you?

ThunderTitan wrote:Although i for one would have never realised that was supposed to be Sandro...

Same here. Did he really have a spidery staff? That looks just too much H5 to me.

Marzhin · Unread postby **Marzhin** » 12 Jul 2011, 15:37

Who said it was the Sandro of Enroth? :p

Corlagon · Unread postby **Corlagon** » 12 Jul 2011, 15:38

MMXAlamar wrote:lol I wonder why Ubi seems to love Crag Hack so much?

Crag Hack (or rather Crag the Hack) is special as he's the first MM character ever made, and Jon Van Caneghem's original avatar in the series. He was a character JVC used to use in D&D before MM was created.

It's abundantly clear why Sandro is considered such an important character. He's a skeleton in a robe.

XEL II · Unread postby **XEL II** » 12 Jul 2011, 16:47

Terran Crag Hack is more deserving of a place in this artwork.

Crag the Hack wasn't actually part of the storyline, but indeed was the precursor of the Crag Hacks. He is not their namesake per se, however.

MMXAlamar · Unread postby **MMXAlamar** » 12 Jul 2011, 17:10

They should have Terrax or Ethric. Terrax was the creator of the Elemental Schools and Dark Magic, and Ethric was the first Lich. Two famous game-changers!

Corlagon · Unread postby **Corlagon** » 12 Jul 2011, 17:19

They should've had General Corlagon in this image. General Corlagon is pivotal to the plot of Heroes II. Why isn't General Corlagon in this image, Marzhin??

MMXAlamar · Unread postby **MMXAlamar** » 12 Jul 2011, 17:42

Those muthafuccas left out a lot of muthafuccas

Avonu · Unread postby **Avonu** » 12 Jul 2011, 17:43

Corlagon wrote:>>>They should've had General Corlagon in this image. General Corlagon is pivotal to the plot of Heroes II. Why isn't General Corlagon in this image, Marzhin??

Becuase I killed that lich myself.

BTW - you may add many, many more missed heroes/characters but I think we all miss one very good known hero: Gelu (I would also add Yog, Tarnum and maybe Kilgor and Mutare).

hellegennes · Unread postby **hellegennes** » 12 Jul 2011, 18:42

Not all heroes fit inside a picture. I like the artwork myself. You will never get to create artwork which contains everyone's favourites. Unless of course you produce a mosaic of just icons.

One person I would have liked to make it into the picture, is Morglin Ironfist. Not only is he a pre-Enroth character and Enrothian too, but most importantly he is the key character in Heroes 1 and a legacy to MM6 and beyond and H2 and beyond. Being the father of Roland and Archibald, everything that transpired in these games are related to him. And of course, he is the discoverer of Enroth and the introduction of Heroes of MM to the franchise.

But you can't have it all.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 12 Jul 2011, 19:34

Marzhin wrote:>>Who said it was the Sandro of Enroth? :p<<

Not me, i only said he should look better... H3's original portrait for him was the best.

Dalai · Unread postby **Dalai** » 12 Jul 2011, 20:07

Ubihole developers read this thread with eyes like this

"Who are all those people???"

Marzhin · Unread postby **Marzhin** » 12 Jul 2011, 20:23

@Dalai: Actually I'm from here, remember? So I already know you all :p

GreatEmerald · Unread postby **GreatEmerald** » 12 Jul 2011, 20:27

XEL II wrote:Terran Crag Hack is more deserving of a place in this artwork.

But then nobody could identify him. It's already difficult as it is.

hellegennes · Unread postby **hellegennes** » 12 Jul 2011, 20:50

So, Marzhin, were you born inside the web? :p

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 12 Jul 2011, 21:43

Marzhin wrote:>>@Dalai: Actually I'm from here, remember? So I already know you all :p<<

Double agents don't count...

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