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Unread postby Corribus » 16 Jan 2006, 21:52

Gaidal Cain wrote:Maybe my english knowledge is as fault here, but wouldn't chemistry as well be excluded from "physical sciences", or has those words some meaning radically different from just "physics"?
Well you kind of have biological (life) sciences at one end of the spectrum and physics at the other, with chemistry occupying the area in between (which doesn't always work, either, because you also have biophysics which doesn't have a lot of chemistry involved, so it's more like a triangle). But typically chemistry and physics are considered the physical sciences in college curricula and biology (and biological sciences) is given its own category, although there is a gray area which includes biochemistry. Physical sciences I guess could be defined as those sciences which are based on physical laws of nonliving systems - and physics and chemistry fit that definition.

For a more rigorous definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_sciences
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Unread postby Gaidal Cain » 16 Jan 2006, 21:55

Deamian: Yes, that was what I was asking :tongue:

And whether Math's is a natural science is something that certainly can be debated...

Corribus: Thanks for filling that hole in my knowledge. :creative:
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Unread postby Corribus » 16 Jan 2006, 21:56

Gaidal Cain wrote:Yes, that was what I was asking :tongue:

And whether Math's is a natural science is something that certainly can be debated...
I wouldn't say it's a true science because it's not really rooted in experimentation. It's more of a category unto itself with as much relationship to science as it is to philosophy.
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Unread postby Gaidal Cain » 16 Jan 2006, 21:58

Corribus wrote: I wouldn't say it's a true science because it's not really rooted in experimentation. It's more of a category unto itself with as much relationship to science as it is to philosophy.
Yup. Still, considering the history concerning physics and maths, it's not difficult to see why someone would bundle them together.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 21:58

Whether it is a natural science or not is not important,but it is the world wide excepted cathegorization.

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Unread postby Gaidal Cain » 16 Jan 2006, 22:04

Yes, it usually is excepted from that cathegory :tongue:
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 22:05

Sorry,I meant accepted.

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Unread postby Gaidal Cain » 16 Jan 2006, 22:12

I know that. You're still wrong, though. Excerpt from wikipedia: .
Mathematics is not itself a natural science, but provides many tools and frameworks used within the natural sciences.
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Unread postby Corribus » 16 Jan 2006, 22:13

Mathematics is to science as grammar and vocabulary is to literature.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 22:32

It seems that when Im not arround Gaidal Cain gains just about 10 posts a day,yet when Im here he gains about 30.Humans are so weird :devil:

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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 16 Jan 2006, 22:38

... thus spoketh the former witchqueen from the infernal pits... and he says we're wierd! :) Then you obviously haven't seen everything, how wierd it can really get. ;)
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 22:40

"Ive seen everithing"
"Have you seen a man eat his own head?"
"Errr...No"
"Then you havent seen anything yet"

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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 16 Jan 2006, 22:42

Have you seen... it ??
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 22:45

It?Yes,it was in a thetre somewhat fifteen years ago.That clown seemed so scary back then.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 16 Jan 2006, 22:52

DaemianLucifer wrote:It?Yes,it was in a thetre somewhat fifteen years ago.That clown seemed so scary back then.
You don't find clowns scary anymore? The only thing scarier then a clown is a mine. And rabid poodles.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 16 Jan 2006, 22:53

Mines are pretty scary!Haunted ones especially :devil:

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Unread postby gravyluvr » 16 Jan 2006, 22:58

Well here I am - Prime Time on the East Coast of the good ol' USA...

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 16 Jan 2006, 23:23

DaemianLucifer wrote:Mines are pretty scary!Haunted ones especially :devil:
Damn sleep! why do we need it anyway? Rabid poodles>mimes>clowns!
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Unread postby Caradoc » 17 Jan 2006, 00:00

As an undergrad, I was a double major in math and english. Out of 40,000 students at UT there was only one other, Gunnar Hansen aka Leatherface from Chainsaw Massacre.

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Unread postby Kristo » 17 Jan 2006, 01:03

DaemianLucifer wrote:No,I meant all of them.Biologhy,math,chem,and physics.Physical science would mean just physics,and probably non-organic chemistry.
Meh, it's all the same. Biology is really just Chemistry. Chemistry is really Physics. Physics is really Math. And Math is really hard.


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