An interesting flashback

[ThunderTitan]

So much whinning.

QFT.

[Shuyssar]

Get yourself a life, whinner!

[LindaG]

And thank goodness I am healthy enough to be able to whine. I shudder to think of the alternative.

[DaemianLucifer]

@Spa...I mean @TT

Shuyssar is just trying to get the thread lock,so stop answering to the provocation.I know its hard for you,but please,for the sake of the rest of us,stop it.

[ThunderTitan]

Get yourself a life, whinner!

As soon as you get a sense of humor. And learn to chill out.

[Humakt]

That's your opinion. If you look at the poll a lot of people seem to think that everything is alright with them casters. So why change things?

Poll didn't asked that. And while the game is good in my opinion there are many things that hinder the system especially the poor performance (seemly can't turn off animations either) of map editor and absurd limitations to it, especially the no scripts for multiplayer (includes hotseat) maps I have heard and 8 town limit. And I for one would have preferred the Heroes 4 system for spellcasters.

[Naskoni]

Get yourself a life, whinner!

No offense, but you come off as a rude, spoiled by absent-minded parents 9-year old. Why don't you wait till you start shaving before telling others to get a life, something you seemingly know nothing about, eh?

Obviously your biggest criteria in a TBS is the graphics - good for you HoMM V delivers in that regard and that is sufficient for your happiness! Now leave the grown ups to think about the stuff behind the pretty graphics, will you?

HoMM V did have that special thing for several days for me. Then I started witnessing Nival's vision of "creativity", piles of bugs and half-baked implementation, cheaty AI, "interesting" campaign, lies of various sorts, the TreeAnt, MP (ha-ha), the "if you want bigger difficulty play with your right hand behind your back" interview + "no text windows for you" remarkable decision, the "free" maps fiasco and now the rather uncalled for resource "rebalance" (I might be wrong but where and when have the fans requested this, as there were tons of other stuff that was requested and never done especially when it came to bugs) and the extreme Raise Dead "balancing" - from somewhat overpowered to nigh useless + Vlad's super nerf - the sure sign of people that know how to balance stuff - they cut the head a bit below the knee. I don't play anymore - I was hoping for 1.3 to improve things but seeing how Nival "balances" the game in "brave", "decisive" and equally unsuccessful moves I might as well move to something else soon - I'm beginning to believe they are hopeless.

If nothing else I find it really humorous how the Jelly man proclaims every single change of the game and in general Nival decisions as the best thing under the sun and of course the general ignorance of anybody that critisizes those - the game is so complex we cannot even hope to begin understanding it, thus how can we critisize it at all!?! With such enlightening argument no matter what they do we should stilll be happy - as they say ignorance is bliss, right? Right... Jelly alone can make me come back to these forums - good read indeed!

Anyway - the short version of my answer: NO!

[DaemianLucifer]

and 8 town limit.

Btw,did anyone check if this limmit is true?

[Jolly Joker]

Get yourself a life, whinner!

No offense, but you come off as a rude, spoiled by absent-minded parents 9-year old. Why don't you wait till you start shaving before telling others to get a life, something you seemingly know nothing about, eh?

Obviously your biggest criteria in a TBS is the graphics - good for you HoMM V delivers in that regard and that is sufficient for your happiness! Now leave the grown ups to think about the stuff behind the pretty graphics, will you?

HoMM V did have that special thing for several days for me. Then I started witnessing Nival's vision of "creativity", piles of bugs and half-baked implementation, cheaty AI, "interesting" campaign, lies of various sorts, the TreeAnt, MP (ha-ha), the "if you want bigger difficulty play with your right hand behind your back" interview + "no text windows for you" remarkable decision, the "free" maps fiasco and now the rather uncalled for resource "rebalance" (I might be wrong but where and when have the fans requested this, as there were tons of other stuff that was requested and never done especially when it came to bugs) and the extreme Raise Dead "balancing" - from somewhat overpowered to nigh useless + Vlad's super nerf - the sure sign of people that know how to balance stuff - they cut the head a bit below the knee. I don't play anymore - I was hoping for 1.3 to improve things but seeing how Nival "balances" the game in "brave", "decisive" and equally unsuccessful moves I might as well move to something else soon - I'm beginning to believe they are hopeless.

If nothing else I find it really humorous how the Jelly man proclaims every single change of the game and in general Nival decisions as the best thing under the sun and of course the general ignorance of anybody that critisizes those - the game is so complex we cannot even hope to begin understanding it, thus how can we critisize it at all!?! With such enlightening argument no matter what they do we should stilll be happy - as they say ignorance is bliss, right? Right... Jelly alone can make me come back to these forums - good read indeed!

Anyway - the short version of my answer: NO!

Thanks. I'm doing my best, but I'm afraid I have no chance against the arrogance of general ignorance. An example?
"and now the rather uncalled for resource "rebalance" (I might be wrong but where and when have the fans requested this, as there were tons of other stuff that was requested"
Fans' request is now the Holy Bible, while Fans' ignorance as in we don't bother to count to seven would never been changed due to no one requested that? Sounds a bit like politics, but hey, what's good enough for the world's leading power... err. Wrong board.
If only the people who stop playing would stop posting and get a life instead of trying to get a couple dozen parting shots in.

[ThunderTitan]

Fans' request is now the Holy Bible, while Fans' ignorance as in we don't bother to count to seven would never been changed due to no one requested that? Sounds a bit like politics, but hey, what's good enough for the world's leading power... err. Wrong board.

I belive the point was that no one complained about the resource reqs, so why did they change something that didn't bother no one when there are plenty of things that do they could have changed? They didn't seem to mind the resource reqs when they relesed the game, and they had a whole extra month for them.

If only the people who stop playing would stop posting and get a life instead of trying to get a couple dozen parting shots in.

So ppl who still are playing don't need a life?!

[Naskoni]

Thanks. I'm doing my best, but I'm afraid I have no chance against the arrogance of general ignorance. An example?
"and now the rather uncalled for resource "rebalance" (I might be wrong but where and when have the fans requested this, as there were tons of other stuff that was requested"
Fans' request is now the Holy Bible, while Fans' ignorance as in we don't bother to count to seven would never been changed due to no one requested that? Sounds a bit like politics, but hey, what's good enough for the world's leading power... err. Wrong board.
If only the people who stop playing would stop posting and get a life instead of trying to get a couple dozen parting shots in.

Yes, you are doing your best - going above and beyond whatever your your pay has suggested. One has but to wonder how irrespectively of whether it was the beta, the state of each patch and even now you pour tons of arguments how the game is more advanced, better polished and whatnot in comparison to whichever previous installment but on the other hand you seem to be part of such a nano-minority of people that find nothing wrong with the game... How come so few share your utmost enthusiasm with how Nival "works" on the game? I find it strange when you praise every single decision of theirs while seemingly almost everybody else is at a loss as to half the things they are doing? Maybe because there is hardly any communication with these people?

There are MANY complaints, argumented ones, that required MUCH more immediate attention than the current half-baked rebalance, which nobody asked for - so much for "we listen to the community", their priorities are somewhere else! What happened to the humongous bug list compiled by people that did and still do (well, maybe) care about the game, eh? What about that? Or maybe this rebalance was so damn vital the bugs had to wait, for example, 6 more months, right?

This game is played by the community, the customers, end-users but you obviously seem to think that their opinion is good only for the trash, isn't it? You have shared your opinion of how useless it is for us to constantly make suggestions because as you put it so nicely they won't change a iota because of what we think - as they have demonstrated pretty well themselves anyway. They demonstrate damn well an attitude of "we know best what you want, how you want it and when you want it" and according to you we should just agree with everything and shove it down as it is - no questions asked, for after all there is no point in doing so, no?

Yes, you and Chuckles would be so damn happy if the only posts made agreed with you completely elevating your status to the one of a HoMM Oracle, the all knowing, and new players wouldn't have to be bothered by incomprehensibly long lists of bugs (my current favourite - "not enought movement points" - now that was a hard one to squash, isn't it?), half-baked interface (interestingly enough at a certain stage of the beta the interface was actually better) and a semi-dumb AI (no, I don't mean the campaign one) - one that has to cheat like hell in order to present any challenge whatsoever. Life would have been good, no? By the way you have the exact same attitude to people still playing but "complaining" (they are ignorant and dumb for not seeing the light too or have simply not played "enough" or whatever that prevents them from understanding this so mega "complex" game, while you seemingly have no problem understanding everything, oh, the self esteem) so nothing new under the sun. At least you are not calling people idiots as often as in the beginning (talking about arrogance here), but it's maybe just me that have missed such recent posts...

As I said - you alone can make me coming back for more - I find you THAT ridiculous...

[DaemianLucifer]

Yes, you are doing your best - going above and beyond whatever your your pay has suggested.

Tis every bosses dream to have an employee like that

One has but to wonder how irrespectively of whether it was the beta, the state of each patch and even now you pour tons of arguments how the game is more advanced, better polished and whatnot in comparison to whichever previous installment but on the other hand you seem to be part of such a nano-minority of people that find nothing wrong with the game...

Amazingly,but youre wrong here.JJ did say once or twice that he doesnt like some stuff about HV.Yes,I know its shocking,but he did.

[ThunderTitan]

Amazingly,but youre wrong here.JJ did say once or twice that he doesnt like some stuff about HV.Yes,I know its shocking,but he did.

He might just have a bias towards the undead.


BTW JJ, so what you think is wrong with the game isn't true, seeing how you say Nival knows exactly what it's doing. Don't recall you saying that they fixed exactly what you didn't like. Then again i do have a pretty bad memory.

Oh, and what exactly is Constructive Criticism if ppl stateting how X or Y should be changed and why isn't??

[DaemianLucifer]

Oh, and what exactly is Constructive Criticism if ppl stateting how X or Y should be changed and why isn't??

Watching the daily show these last few days Ive relised how nival is a lot like bush.So to answer your question,constructive criticism would be if you said:"this aspect of HV is good because this and this,but this aspect of HV is even better because..."

[Campaigner]

No, it does't.

Heroes II & III had. HIV wasn't a HoMM game and part 1 I've never played.

There are many improvements but the small square battlefield and the artificial scripts (called A.I) decides it for me sine they are so important.

I don't even got Heroes V installed anymore. I will install it a final time with the expansion and see if I can finally finish my Ranger campaign without the game crashing within 10min (I will have a new computer by then so it shouldn't crash).

Shussar/schuyssar/whatever: You're not a day over 12, right?

DL, TT and Naskoni: Great posts

[asandir]

some marvelous posts there, especially you Naskoni, excellent

Watching the daily show these last few days Ive relised how nival is a lot like bush.So to answer your question,constructive criticism would be if you said:"this aspect of HV is good because this and this,but this aspect of HV is even better because..."

damn, that's what we've been doing wrong

it is wonderful now that I've gone back to HII how wonderfully inbalanced that game is, and how INSANELY fun it is .... and how sadly different this is to V

shame

[Humakt]

and 8 town limit.

Btw,did anyone check if this limmit is true?

The map editor certainly complains about it. But now that I've actually tested it, yes you can put more than 8 towns to the map and I even gave player 11 towns starting (with some 14 towns total). It worked but it obviously made the loading time much longer. I didn't test much beyond that.

[DaemianLucifer]

Well thats good to know.It seems that the rummors were just that:Rummors.

[asandir]

yeah, but I'm not sure I'd actually like to play a map with a heap of towns that lags really badly though

[DaemianLucifer]

Yes,that there engine might provide a bit of trouble.