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Unread postby Caradoc » 21 Aug 2006, 22:06

DaemianLucifer wrote:People are weird.They arent concerned about something until it happens,and when it does they become too paranoid,as if to balance things out.
I think what is happening is that actual events have an emotional impact that potential events don't. No matter how low the probability, when an event occurs, people become emotionally involved in it and that gives it greater significance.

Let's face it, there are many, many threats greater than airplanes crashing into skyscrapers again, but these are ignored because people have not experienced them. All that stuff with shoes and toothpaste at the airport is to make people feel safer, not to really make them safer.
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Unread postby asandir » 21 Aug 2006, 23:45

ahh yes, the airbag ones .... :D

natural is definately the way to go as far as i am concerned
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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 22 Aug 2006, 00:41

Caradoc wrote:All that stuff with shoes and toothpaste at the airport is to make people feel safer, not to really make them safer.
I remeber laughing at the fact that after 9/11 they instaled metal detectors at some other tower building. Sure, that will definately stop incoming planes dead in their tracks.


Turner to ax smoking scenes from cartoons

Cable network to remove decades-old sequences after viewer complaint


LONDON - Turner Broadcasting is scouring more than 1,500 classic Hanna-Barbera cartoons, including old favorites Tom and Jerry, The Flintstones and Scooby-Doo, to edit out scenes that glamorize smoking.

The review was triggered by a complaint to British media regulator Ofcom by one viewer who took offence to two episodes of Tom and Jerry shown on the Boomerang channel, part of Turner Broadcasting which itself belongs to Time Warner Inc.

“We are going through the entire catalogue,” Yinka Akindele, spokeswoman for Turner in Europe, said on Monday.

“This is a voluntary step we’ve taken in light of the changing times,” she said, adding the painstaking review had been prompted by the Ofcom complaint.
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Unread postby asandir » 22 Aug 2006, 02:00

ahhh the problems people can cause with a single complaint, not that i am against them stopping the images of cartoons smoking, but still ....
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 22 Aug 2006, 10:29

Cenzorship and freedom of speech cannot coexist.Stuff shouldnt be banned from cartoons,its just that the parents that dont want their kids to watch such things should ban them from watching such cartoons.So a better labeling system needs to be made.Its way easier for people to complain how cartoon/game/movie makers are irresponsible then for them to raise their children better.

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Unread postby asandir » 22 Aug 2006, 11:50

good post DL, i agree with that wholeheartedly being a parent myself (even if fairly new to it)

i already see so many other parents trying to make other people responsible for raising their kids, if you have them, then you raise them!!


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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 22 Aug 2006, 13:15

DaemianLucifer wrote:Cenzorship and freedom of speech cannot coexist. Stuff shouldnt be banned from cartoons,its just that the parents that dont want their kids to watch such things should ban them from watching such cartoons.
You do realise that parents banning their kids from watching cartoons is still censorship, right? It's just not goverment censorship.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 22 Aug 2006, 13:24

Thats true,but children dont have all the freedoms adults have(nor the responsibilities),so they dont have full freedom of speech.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 22 Aug 2006, 13:29

DaemianLucifer wrote:Thats true,but children dont have all the freedoms adults have(nor the responsibilities),so they dont have full freedom of speech.
Along with all them minorities and those darn tooten women. :devil:
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Unread postby asandir » 22 Aug 2006, 23:07

actually the minorities tend to have the free-est of speech, and scream/squeal the loudest too in general, people are always so scared of challenging those minority groups, who all too often forget that they are a minority
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Unread postby asandir » 23 Aug 2006, 01:36

British bridesmaid travels overland to Brisbane
A dedicated environmental activist is travelling overland from Wales to Brisbane to be a bridesmaid at her friend's wedding.

Barbara "Babs" Haddrill, 28, is undertaking a six-week trip by train, bus and boat to avoid carbon emissions from aircraft.

She will head back using the same means after performing bridesmaid duties in a homemade dress.

"I feel like I have devoted myself to doing what I can to reduce my impact on the environment," she wrote in her blog, babs2brisbane.blogspot.com.

"If I flew to Australia, I would negate everything I have done for the last six years and that would seem sad."

Ms Haddrill, who works at the Centre for Alternative Technology in mid-Wales and lives in a caravan, began her journey yesterday, hitch-hiking in a downpour.

She will head by bus to Moscow and take the trans-Siberian railway, before heading south to Singapore, again by train, where she will try to find a boat to take her to Australia.

Trains, boats and buses all have less impact on the environment than air travel, which at high altitudes pumps out harmful greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming.
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Unread postby asandir » 23 Aug 2006, 01:42

and another, just for plain wrongness
This little piggy went to the naked artist...
Animal rights activists have described as "sick" a live art performance involving a naked woman cradling a dead pig for four hours.

Kira O'Reilly's show, called "Inthewrongplaceness" will be performed at the Newlyn Art Gallery in Penzance, south-west England, later on Friday (local time).

James Green, the gallery's director, defended the show, saying that the audience would be controlled, with one person at a time watching the performance for up to 10 minutes each.

"In terms of the gallery's view, we feel very strongly that we should provide audiences in the region with opportunities to see the kind of works that they have to go to London to experience," he told Reuters

He added that the gallery "had not received a single direct complaint" about the planned show, one of several live performances making up the Tract live art program.

But a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) called the performance "sick".

"As Miss O'Reilly seems to depend on the shock of using a murdered pig as a prop, perhaps lacking the talent to make it as a proper artist, may we suggest she take up a day job instead to pay the bills," she said. "Cruelty is not entertainment."

On the gallery's website (www.newlynartgallery.co.uk), O'Reilly calls the performance "a slow crushing dance with a pig for one person at a time".

"The work left me with an undercurrent of pigginess, unexpected fantasies of mergence and interspecies metamorphoses began to flicker into my consciousness."
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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 23 Aug 2006, 01:43

stefan.urlus wrote:actually the minorities tend to have the free-est of speech, and scream/squeal the loudest too in general, people are always so scared of challenging those minority groups, who all too often forget that they are a minority
Right now they have. People can seem to be able to keep things moderate. Either they discriminate or overaccomodate them.
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Unread postby asandir » 23 Aug 2006, 01:47

or perhaps some people are too touchy as well .... maybe we should all chill a bit?? :|
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 23 Aug 2006, 05:58

stefan.urlus wrote: She will head by bus to Moscow and take the trans-Siberian railway, before heading south to Singapore, again by train, where she will try to find a boat to take her to Australia.
As I seem to recall,trans-siberian railway is steam powered,and trans oceanic boats also use oil.So how is this enviromentalist?Its just hypocritic.Why isnt she walking and swimming if shes so rightwous?Like that plane will emit less gases just because she will miss it.Please.
stefan.urlus wrote: But a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) called the performance "sick".
If they only used a dead human child,then it wouldnt be that sick :devil:

Bah,modern art is weird,to say the least.Someone just has to take a big dump at a galery and suddenly its art.I have an idea,Ill just dress casually,go to a gelry and flip my finger at anyone that passes by.Ill call that exhibit "Defiance".Hey,its not me just flipping my finger,its art.

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Unread postby asandir » 23 Aug 2006, 07:12

DaemianLucifer wrote:
stefan.urlus wrote: She will head by bus to Moscow and take the trans-Siberian railway, before heading south to Singapore, again by train, where she will try to find a boat to take her to Australia.
As I seem to recall,trans-siberian railway is steam powered,and trans oceanic boats also use oil.So how is this enviromentalist?Its just hypocritic.Why isnt she walking and swimming if shes so rightwous?Like that plane will emit less gases just because she will miss it.Please.
stefan.urlus wrote: But a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) called the performance "sick".
If they only used a dead human child,then it wouldnt be that sick :devil:

Bah,modern art is weird,to say the least.Someone just has to take a big dump at a galery and suddenly its art.I have an idea,Ill just dress casually,go to a gelry and flip my finger at anyone that passes by.Ill call that exhibit "Defiance".Hey,its not me just flipping my finger,its art.
yep to both your points, she's an odd person, who makes no sense, and i have never really "got" the whole modern art scene

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 24 Aug 2006, 00:06

Police foil daring prison break-in

A YOUNG convict in Vienna missed prison so much that he tried to break back in after he was released.

Detlef Federsohn, 23, was released from the Josefstadt prison after serving two years for theft. But he was arrested last week when police were called out to a suspected prison break after he was spotted on the roof of the jail.

Mr Federsohn said: "Life is so much easier on the inside. They feed you, do your washing and let you watch TV, which I can tell you is a lot more than my mum does. So I thought if I could sneak back in I would blend in with the others and the screws wouldn't notice."

Funny thing is that half mt countrymen would prob be better of in that jail too. Not in our jails though.
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Unread postby asandir » 24 Aug 2006, 01:21

ThunderTitan wrote:
Police foil daring prison break-in

A YOUNG convict in Vienna missed prison so much that he tried to break back in after he was released.

Detlef Federsohn, 23, was released from the Josefstadt prison after serving two years for theft. But he was arrested last week when police were called out to a suspected prison break after he was spotted on the roof of the jail.

Mr Federsohn said: "Life is so much easier on the inside. They feed you, do your washing and let you watch TV, which I can tell you is a lot more than my mum does. So I thought if I could sneak back in I would blend in with the others and the screws wouldn't notice."

Funny thing is that half mt countrymen would prob be better of in that jail too. Not in our jails though.
that's just magic .... prison break in .... now is that an indication that our jails are a bit pathetic??
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 24 Aug 2006, 07:49

ThunderTitan wrote: Funny thing is that half mt countrymen would prob be better of in that jail too. Not in our jails though.
Indeed so.I know Id gladly go to one of those prisons.Id also gladly become a war criminal just to go to the Hague.I really dont understand those politicians and ex-generals here that are actually avoiding it.You have internet access there,for gods sake!

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 24 Aug 2006, 09:02

stefan.urlus wrote: now is that an indication that our jails are a bit pathetic??
No, i think it's an indication that there a bit too comfy.
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