Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 05.11.2023]

[Roxterat]

The Irony..

[cthscr]

FeatherFall always was party buff, wasn't it?

Feather Fall yes, as a spell, but taking no damage from falling is a thing for a single character in the original game, at least MM7 I'm pretty sure..
So is water walking that actually worked nicely for a single char, sorry, don't mean to argue but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
(Not 100% sure about Lady's Escort, but I know single char affection about featherfall/waterwalk was a thing back there..)

Yes, you're right, these are neither WaterWalk nor FeatherFall (damn you, NWC!)
Extending player SpellBuffs will require A LOT of work and should be avoided if possible.

[cthscr]

FeatherFall always was party buff, wasn't it?

Feather Fall yes, as a spell, but taking no damage from falling is a thing for a single character in the original game, at least MM7 I'm pretty sure..
So is water walking that actually worked nicely for a single char, sorry, don't mean to argue but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
(Not 100% sure about Lady's Escort, but I know single char affection about featherfall/waterwalk was a thing back there..)

Yes, you're right, these are neither WaterWalk nor FeatherFall (damn you, NWC!)
Extending player SpellBuffs will require A LOT of work and should be avoided if possible.

MM8 item 522 (Archangel Wings) has "Feather Falling" so the effect was [hard]coded into mm8.exe

[NotABroom]

The Irony..

I wonder if you will get the money if you just drown yourself.

[cthscr]

MM8 item 522 (Archangel Wings) has "Feather Falling" so the effect was [hard]coded into mm8.exe

Just like SpecialBonus (aka Bonus2) 72.

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.text:00471710                 push    48h
.text:00471712                 mov     ecx, esi
.text:00471714                 call    sub_48CF8A      ; HasItemBonus - Bonus2
.text:00471719                 test    eax, eax
.text:0047171B                 jnz     loc_4717EC
.text:00471721                 push    10h
.text:00471723                 push    20Ah
.text:00471728                 mov     ecx, esi
.text:0047172A                 call    sub_48CFC3
.text:0047172F                 test    eax, eax
.text:00471731                 jnz     loc_4717EC

[Roxterat]

I wonder if you will get the money if you just drown yourself.

Sounds good, doesn't work.

[Roxterat]

MM8 item 522 (Archangel Wings) has "Feather Falling" so the effect was [hard]coded into mm8.exe

Just like SpecialBonus (aka Bonus2) 72.

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.text:00471710                 push    48h
.text:00471712                 mov     ecx, esi
.text:00471714                 call    sub_48CF8A      ; HasItemBonus - Bonus2
.text:00471719                 test    eax, eax
.text:0047171B                 jnz     loc_4717EC
.text:00471721                 push    10h
.text:00471723                 push    20Ah
.text:00471728                 mov     ecx, esi
.text:0047172A                 call    sub_48CFC3
.text:0047172F                 test    eax, eax
.text:00471731                 jnz     loc_4717EC

Item 522 works perfectly just like Hermes Sandals etc. should.
Now how to deal with this code..? Since I haven't figured how it works, rats.. ^^

[cthscr]

Item 522 works perfectly just like Hermes Sandals etc. should.
Now how to deal with this code..? Since I haven't figured how it works, rats.. ^^

https://gitlab.com/cthscr/mmmerge/-/com ... 27fc651a39

[Roxterat]

Item 522 works perfectly just like Hermes Sandals etc. should.
Now how to deal with this code..? Since I haven't figured how it works, rats.. ^^

https://gitlab.com/cthscr/mmmerge/-/com ... 27fc651a39

By Seven Thousand lords, even "Allow to forbid entrance" and other stuff is there..
This game keeps giving since 20 years ago.

[Roxterat]

Item 522 works perfectly just like Hermes Sandals etc. should.
Now how to deal with this code..? Since I haven't figured how it works, rats.. ^^

https://gitlab.com/cthscr/mmmerge/-/com ... 27fc651a39

It works perfectly BTW, a symphony!
Well, time to give the other items what they should have..
I'd smash it to the code but I've noticed items that doesn't have skins on paperdoll aren't in ExtraArtifacts, don't want to mess with that..

[Roxterat]

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-- Lady's Escort
GetBonusList(1338).SpcBonuses = {71, 72}
-- Hareck's Leather
GetBonusList(1318).SpcBonuses = {71}
-- Wetsuit
GetBonusList(1406).SpcBonuses = {71}
-- Hermes' Sandals
GetBonusList(1331).SpcBonuses = {72}
-- Winged Sandals
GetBonusList(1439).SpcBonuses = {72}

Making some stuff work, also needs deleting from "Buffs and extra effects" so it takes effect from this..

[Roxterat]

Got an idea about debuff, some gloves (boots, helm opt.) might add to attack recovery time because.. movement restraint.
\Scripts\Global got the ExtraArtifacts.lua file with "Attack delay mods", might include something similar for other items though I believe common items are moded in MMMerge other way..
Just a thought.

[cthscr]

Here we are:

[Roxterat]

Here we are:

Noice! Options! MORE options!

[pheYonyx]

Starting in mm7 with 5 characters, Silver Belt (mm7 item) shows up as error on every character, both on mm7 and mm8 character dolls.


Lord Markham gave me the Feather for a quest by Norbert Thrush from Erathia while I was on the Emerald Island. He shouldn't have that dialogue option on the Island, only when he's in his manor in Tatalia. Because it's a response line, not a quest starter.

Also, some minor things:
1). Broadsword, "+1 to hit, 3d4 +1" vs Cutlass, +1 to hit, 2d4 +1" price difference, the worse weapon costs more.


2). Griffins in mm7 have colour discrepancy. Normal one is fine. I can get the Royal one, it's close. But Hunting's colour is on a different side.


3). For some reason, the chest on the left side of the obelisk seen on the previous screenshot for some reason had a Supreme Plate in it, an Artifact-like item from mm8 (Plate, 70 AC, +15 Speed/Accuracy, Swift). Seems waaaay too early for the item of that powerlevel.

[qtish]

I did couple gameplays - seems its a chest with random artifact, similar to MM8 chests.

[pheYonyx]

I did couple gameplays - seems its a chest with random artifact, similar to MM8 chests.

Thing is, I don't think it was an Artifact chest in base mm7.

[Roxterat]

I did couple gameplays - seems its a chest with random artifact, similar to MM8 chests.

Thing is, I don't think it was an Artifact chest in base mm7.

It wasn't you're right, the first Artifact in game you'd stumble across is WAY later in MM7 vanilla, but somehow I don't think it's too bad to have an early artifact. That chest gave me an OP Spear, like Triton's or whatever, +70 water res, -70 fire res and water breath, so I guess it's a Relic since those always had something negative to deal with, but are even to more powerful (at least in original MM7).
And there are WAY too many dialogues that are just TOO opened for a player to deal with, Markham is the slightest. You can say Artifact to Catherine or Elf king and they just reward you. Just like that.
Oh and Oracle gives you a crapload of stuff too, but hey, at least I got the lute back without even adding the item using console..
I've modded a few things for myself using tools and stuff because.. my opinion told me to do so, worth it!
Cheers!

[qtish]

Yeah, if you would play MM8 world, you could savescum so many easy artifacts. Tree chest in Ravenshore. Chest behind Ogre Fortress in Alvar. Stone chest next to cyclops chest in Ironsand. 2-3 chests in dragon cave in Ironsand. Chest in tunnel under lava (heavily trapped). Its not a bad thing to give one easy artifact in MM7 world.

[pheYonyx]

That chest gave me an OP Spear, like Triton's or whatever, +70 water res, -70 fire res and water breath, so I guess it's a Relic since those always had something negative to deal with, but are even to more powerful (at least in original MM7).

MM8 just removed the categorization of Artifacts/Relics/Uniques (aka Special Items). They won't, while unidentified, show up in Action Bar as "...and an item (Artifact)", it'll be their item class instead, "...and an item (Spear)/(Trident)" in your case.

And there are WAY too many dialogues that are just TOO opened for a player to deal with, Markham is the slightest. You can say Artifact to Catherine or Elf king and they just reward you. Just like that.
Oh and Oracle gives you a crapload of stuff too...

Neither of those gave me anything when I clicked that button but when I tried to run a test start in mm8, Dadeross, minotaur caravaneer in the Town Hall of Dagger Wound Island confirmed that Baltazar's Axe is genuine despite me just starting the game.
I don't really like that but now I will know to save before clicking and reloading if it will give me a free quest completion.

Sidenote: I think, that's missing tooltip info:

Druids are not listed in either of the tooltips, although both stat changes affect their spell points maximum (Intellect is more effective than Personality, question mark?). Neither are Paladins/Monks, although those need to be promoted before they can cast spells, so that's okay.