"So I heard that Harmondale has a king that is a Troll, is that true?"SpectralDragon wrote:LMAO no problem, even if Boyarskii cannot be a Mino because I couldn´t make it work on it.
Crowns! Now everyone (even if Trolls will look weird in them ^^; ) will be able to have crowns!
Get your stuff HERE:
https://sta.sh/01ev6bcecuqy
this one can be also used for the mm6 artifact/relic crowns arthur and odinSpectralDragon wrote:LMAO no problem, even if Boyarskii cannot be a Mino because I couldn´t make it work on it.
Crowns! Now everyone (even if Trolls will look weird in them ^^; ) will be able to have crowns!
Get your stuff HERE:
It would be great if those were different, though. At least a hue change.justl wrote:this one can be also used for the mm6 artifact/relic crowns arthur and odinSpectralDragon wrote:LMAO no problem, even if Boyarskii cannot be a Mino because I couldn´t make it work on it.
Crowns! Now everyone (even if Trolls will look weird in them ^^; ) will be able to have crowns!
Get your stuff HERE:
This is a fact, indeed. At least, you are one that can recognize it clearly.SpectralDragon wrote:Sure, there are gals out there that would be offended by this sort of stuff
If M&M is by itself 'potentially offensive' because of its universe stuff? Yes, somehow likely. A good point. But still, while it can't hold itself, people still can. Or maybe I shouldn't be here indeed; my gaming epoque might have ended after all. 
Actually no, you watched my MM8 LP. SpectralDragon however made hundreds of comments on my MM8 LP, so that is probably why you remember it like that.Kinox wrote:This is a fact, indeed. At least, you are one that can recognize it clearly.SpectralDragon wrote:Sure, there are gals out there that would be offended by this sort of stuff
People should take facts more seriously, if they want to be properly respected.
It's just that simple. No more need be said.
PS: Btw, you might remember me; If I'm not wrong, I used to watch and comment your MM8 Let's Play. Some crazy stuff such as respawning pirates in Daggerwound Island.
People is seeing. Just one advice: keep your deviations to yourself, or go find a treament.Templayer wrote:Also you just ripped SpectralDragon's words out of context. Which offends me, funnily enough.
"People should take facts more seriously, if they want to be properly respected." - facts that you change to better suit you. Currently I have zero respect for you and I am very close to blocking you just so I wouldn't have to deal with you ever again. Take you social "justice" bulls.hit elsewhere please.
Now with a literal Troll King as well!Templayer wrote:"So I heard that Harmondale has a king that is a Troll, is that true?"
"Yeah. He sure does look weird with a crown."
That's why I LOVE my job at times.
I LOVE that artifact simply because of how it is even if it looks like a standard MM6 Almighty Crown (aside me being a big fan of Arthurian Legends to the point I almost always get an Arthur lookalike in my MM partiesTemplayer wrote:It would be great if those were different, though. At least a hue change.justl wrote:This one can be also used for the mm6 artifact/relic crowns arthur and odin
Copy paste is boring. One of clear updates in MM7 and MM8 (non-copypasted look for artifacts and relics).
EDIT: Actually adding gems to look like actual medieval kingly crowns would be cool.
), thus I'm all too happy to provide material for their existence. As for how these 2 should look like, aren't MM7 crowns waaaaaay more tacky than MM6 ones? I'd use one of these instead of a MM6 one if I would be you, Templayer ... and speaking of tacky crowns, I NEED IMAGE ASSETS FOR THE PHYNAXIAN CROWN, DANGIT! I wish to see a Troll wear that giant-ass thing!
I don't remember you leaving anything on my videos though, unlike Templayer. ^^; If you can remember giant info annotations I've left when seeing the likes of Captain Nelson and Admiral Clausewitz, then yep, that's mine.Kinox wrote:PS: Btw, you might remember me; If I'm not wrong, I used to watch and comment your MM8 Let's Play. Some crazy stuff such as respawning pirates in Daggerwound Island.
And YES, MM games themselves (from 6 to 8, that is. I cannot remember if I've seen anything like that in 9 at all except maybe entire Arslegard/Asgard thing, but I hardly believe anyone would be offended by that. Maybe Norse legend purists, but what? ) are boiling kettles of offensive material and thus expect people of those games to talk about them as freely as people of Dwarf Fortress community talk about stuff like how they can make the best military in the world by throwing Dwarf children to the rabid dogs and having them train themselves like that. Skewered morality compass that doesn't listen to political correctness! 
I mean, there's a female Wererat imprisoned in a fortress filled to the brim with ravenous male Ogres and humans (Mercenaries) only for crying out loud, both me and Templayer probably offended a whole bunch of people (one of which might be you as well) by just talking about it extensively in his Avlee-related videos! Reported and blocked (with that crappy makeshift userscript I made).Kinox wrote:People is seeing. Just one advice: keep your deviations to yourself, or go find a treament.Templayer wrote:Also you just ripped SpectralDragon's words out of context. Which offends me, funnily enough.
"People should take facts more seriously, if they want to be properly respected." - facts that you change to better suit you. Currently I have zero respect for you and I am very close to blocking you just so I wouldn't have to deal with you ever again. Take you social "justice" bulls.hit elsewhere please.
can all of you people who are not liking the other plz just ignore the other and leave the rest of us out of it?Kinox wrote:People is seeing. Just one advice: keep your deviations to yourself, or go find a treament.Templayer wrote:Also you just ripped SpectralDragon's words out of context. Which offends me, funnily enough.
"People should take facts more seriously, if they want to be properly respected." - facts that you change to better suit you. Currently I have zero respect for you and I am very close to blocking you just so I wouldn't have to deal with you ever again. Take you social "justice" bulls.hit elsewhere please.
Already did. If you were to check my response. No more squabbling with him.justl wrote:can all of you people who are not liking the other plz just ignore the other and leave the rest of us out of it?Kinox wrote:People is seeing. Just one advice: keep your deviations to yourself, or go find a treament.Templayer wrote:Also you just ripped SpectralDragon's words out of context. Which offends me, funnily enough.
"People should take facts more seriously, if they want to be properly respected." - facts that you change to better suit you. Currently I have zero respect for you and I am very close to blocking you just so I wouldn't have to deal with you ever again. Take you social "justice" bulls.hit elsewhere please.
or clear it via pm or email ( i dont care ...)
this is a forum for (hopefully) constructive ideas and bugfinding, etc. - not a personal warzone.
thx
(no, im not on anyones side at this squabling)
I believe it works so that your characters' maximum skill cap is raised by one category, so for example if your char could learn up to master in a skill, now they'll be able to learn up to grand. And yes, it's wildly OP, as I've written in a post a couple pages back, which I had to take tons of sh!t for from a certain pleasant guy as always. Anyway, I was under the wrong impression that this was already integrated into the base game, but it's actually optional. I'm still very much for an official, integrated version of racial skill level modifiers, but it would have to be much more subtle, like 1-2 modified skills per race tops maybe. I've been trying to have a discussion about a good way of implementing it so that everyone's happy, but that will be up to Rodril I suppose.Echo wrote:I'm a second girl around here (and it's unlikely there's many more of us around) and also not offended so let's put that thing to rest, not ban anyone, and move on in peace and happiness
I do have a question about the issue that started this teeny-weeny flamewar - does the human racial skill add +1 point to the skills or +1 rank? As in, does it make say "Armsmaster 10" count as if there were 11 points in it, or does it make Expert into Master etc?
The +1 point would be a nice little bonus, I find, and give humans a pleasant, useful perk (admittedly a ton better than the original races had unless I missed some perks active after character creation). The rank up, on the other hand, seems immensely powerful.
Take my opinion with a grain of salt though, still haven't had time to play the merge and as far as I know the only racial perks were giving for instance Elves 2 points of Dexterity for 1 skill point and 1 point of Endurance for 2 points. Which gets super irrelevant soon enough.
I'm mostly just curious cause I'm not sure I understood it correctly. And I'd rather bring the talk back to bickering about stats than political issues for everyone's sake!
To be perfectly fair and honest, certain problems have already started way back, more like page 140 or so. Not so much before that point, though.jeff wrote:I have just been made aware of misbehavior in this thread. We are reviewing the various offending posts and will take the appropriate action. In the mean time I will leave the thread open for now. For well over 200 pages forum members have been suppling each other with good information and have been civil; this is why the recent comments had gone under the radar. We strive to maintain a fan and family friendly forum, and we will not accept or tolerate personal attacks or potentially offensive comments directed to other forum members.
If I could chip in just a little, I hope I'm not out of line, but I really hope the person doesn't get banned/warned for that "both are pretty girls" thing. I truly don't think anything offensive was said there and it would be a shame to punish the fella for saying that, whether it was a movie quote or not.jeff wrote:I have just been made aware of misbehavior in this thread. We are reviewing the various offending posts and will take the appropriate action. In the mean time I will leave the thread open for now. For well over 200 pages forum members have been suppling each other with good information and have been civil; this is why the recent comments had gone under the radar. We strive to maintain a fan and family friendly forum, and we will not accept or tolerate personal attacks or potentially offensive comments directed to other forum members.
I'm 99% convinced that post was not even briefly considered by the mods. It's completely, 100% innocent and you really have to reach to be even remotely offended by it. Kinox suggesting it was in some way offensive (in fact more so than the overall rudeness he must have seen in the thread prior to it) was definitely not the type of behavior that resonated well with most of us here and I made that clear, but neither do I condone the rudeness and coldness that Templayer treated Kinox with. There is a difference between disliking excessive political correctness and making it an excuse to discard all etiquette and as a shield to make crude and genuinely offensive jokes or remarks with impunity. Quoting an innocuous line from a children's animated movie is not an example of a genuinely offensive joke, but we need to be able to recognize ones that indeed are, and shouldn't seek to justify them being made lest we come across as "politically correct". This is more a matter of decency, tact and being able to read the room. That said, I don't think this particular type of behavior has been a problem in this thread, complaints about political correctness notwithstanding. The problems are rudeness, impatience, condescension, arrogance, self-importance, projecting one's faults upon others, feeling personally attacked in discussions for no good reason, acting bossy and so on.Echo wrote: If I could chip in just a little, I hope I'm not out of line, but I really hope the person doesn't get banned/warned for that "both are pretty girls" thing. I truly don't think anything offensive was said there and it would be a shame to punish the fella for saying that, whether it was a movie quote or not.
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I hope you're right. But I just felt like I'd rather say it. I am probably too afraid of people getting punished myself, but I've seen even some high-profile folks make decisions under pressure that I felt were hurtful (and in the situation I'm thinking of luckily reversed later, but the harm was done) so I figured I'll just defend the fellow.Xfing wrote: I'm 99% convinced that post was not even briefly considered by the mods. It's completely, 100% innocent and you really have to reach to be even remotely offended by it. Kinox suggesting it was in some way offensive (in fact more so than the overall rudeness he must have seen in the thread prior to it) was definitely not the type of behavior that resonated well with most of us here and I made that clear, but neither do I condone the rudeness and coldness that Templayer treated Kinox with. There is a difference between disliking excessive political correctness and making it an excuse to discard all etiquette and as a shield to make crude and genuinely offensive jokes or remarks with impunity. Quoting an innocuous line from a children's animated movie is not an example of a genuinely offensive joke, but we need to be able to recognize ones that indeed are, and shouldn't seek to justify them being made lest we come across as "politically correct". This is more a matter of decency, tact and being able to read the room. That said, I don't think this particular type of behavior has been a problem in this thread, complaints about political correctness notwithstanding. The problems are rudeness, impatience, condescension, arrogance, self-importance, projecting one's faults upon others, feeling personally attacked in discussions for no good reason, acting bossy and so on.
) and getting everyone permanently angry and ready to fight the other side at the slightest pretext. 
Merge over the divisions! Thank you.jeff wrote:The posts that seem to have caused the upset were brought to my attention by someone that was concerned. For now no further action is planned beyond the warning issued in my previous post. Let's try and keep it on topic and as friendly as possible.
When it comes to the offending post(s), it was probably some of the ones starting with this one on previous page (211, the very start) that came in 02 Oct 2019, 01:15 (CET, methinks). You can find it at the top of the page and from this one, things got blown of proportion.
No names here because one, they already show up in said original posts and 2, we (or at least I) wish to move on from this tidal wave of nonsense as soon as possible and just continue talking about the mod. Yesh, I'll probably get targeted about this very post I've made that showcases the most likely culprit for the said offensive posts, but you (and other mods that might come) deserve to know where the root of the problem is, at least from my observations.It's fun that moderation has been forgotten (or never existed?) in this forum or thread…
For, until now, it was well observable that Templayer and XFing were having some difficulties in communication.
But, essentially, that was limited to (I dare say) brand provokation between themselves.
Now, this user decided to go a bit too far:This is ugly disrespect for a large group of people, and Misoginy at its purest. Girls (or Women) have NOTHING to do with the current issue; and still they were invoked in that offensive manner. Ridiculous. I hope he get banned for this. I don't want, as a man gamer, to be associated with this kind of mindset and behavior — even though we all know why we (as gamers) have been so hated world-wide, more and more. That's one of the reasons why. GOOD JOB!!!Girls, girls! You're both pretty! Can I go home now?
Scratch my previous one, DaveHer managed to make the Fancy Hat work on Minos, so these will come as well. Once in, even a Minotaur can be Boyarskii as Masly says.Templayer wrote:NÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓ!SpectralDragon wrote:Except Fancy Hat (marked as "hat2"), I couldn´t make it work on a Mino.Templayer wrote:But if Minotaurs can be made to wear hats, as Rodril has stated... that means... that my Minotaur Archer is going to have spiffy MM6 hats!
FINALLY I WILL USE HATS!
I do not think I have ever used them before. Except for the very, very, VERY early game.
I have to agree on that one, since that messing up with stuff is another reason why am I restraining myself from playing the Merge (aside the obvious thing with the Undead Ghost Dragon and all). Don't wish to lose any of my progress on the Merge simply because of things like that that would force me to reinstall the entire thing each time it's all updated. ^^;Templayer wrote:tl;dr, I hope Rodril keeps the "one package that is always updated to the max" for people with normal internet connections. Instead of having to deal with Merge patches and corruptions like we had to before. (the rogue ancient GrayFace Patch file that caused crashes, etc.)
Just being able to install, download, extract and play is a rather important thing. Instead of install, download, extract, update merge, update GF and then spent half a day figuring out why it doesn't work.
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