I see your patience is growing short Thunder Titan. Why the irritation, you don't have to reply when you don't want to.ThunderTitan wrote: Sure, i mean he couldn't have been making a point about kreegans being destructive or trying to instil in the heroes how much of a threat they are by invoking something familiar etc...
Because that's what you thought of 1st that must be it...
Jeez you're getting boring... at least try to come up with something new...
The heroes already know the kreegans are destructive and are a threat long before they meet Melian. So that's obviously not it.
Funny thing is though that I did actually bring in something new. I mentioned the Heroes V demons and raised the question of how exactly do they fit into the scheme. I was going to go on in greater length about it but decided that the post was already long enough.
My old theory was that the Ancients planets are threatened not only from space by the 'kreegans' but also by indigenous demonic creatures which come from the Fiery Realm, the 'Anti-Space' opposed to material reality and seeking to 'unify' it into itself, planet by planet.
The Ancients had set up an initial defense system against the demons of the Fiery Realm preventing them from materialising on the material realm except perhaps on terms that are strictly controlled. We know (from Heroes IV) that it is possible to open up a portal to a Fiery Realm planet by destroying an item that is 'connected' to it in some way.
The Kreegans initial landing (as depicted in Might and Magic VI) destroys the asteroid-spacecraft that they use to travel the stars, given that the planet from which said object is already under the domination of the Kreegans (and thus a Fiery Realm) this could quite feasibly create portals to that planet similar to the one in Heroes IV. This is supported by the statement of Falagar that "since the arrival of the devils foul creatures and evil spirits have appeared throughout the land"
What the demons/kreegans are doing is sort of similar to what Hitler did with the Maginot line, going around the Ancients 'fortifications' rather than through them.
But where do the demons of Heroes V/VI fit into this picture. Could not Ashan be an example of a world where the Ancients defenses against demonic incursion are greatly damaged? What Sar-Elam did was 'patch up' the damaged defense system with the Skull of Shadows. He took the hole in the fabric of the defense network, 'folded it' and so turned it into a funnel of sorts into a prison world of his creation, that is Sheolg. Sheolg is neither the material world or the Fiery Realm, it is somewhere in the middle. What the demons want is not so merely to gain access to Ashan; they just turn the areas they control into an extension of Sheolg anyway, they want to restore contact with the Fiery Realm and thus with Urgash/the Creators.
Taking that Ashan is Axeoth's future then perhaps what Gauldoth did in Heroes IV had wider consequences that he did not understand and did not come to fruition in the time-frame of Heroes IV. The Ancient era (Heroes IV onwards) sees the crusade of the Angels (Life faction?) against the Faceless (Death faction?) and thus affords the demons the ability to emerge and build up their strength in 'uninhabited places'. Given the Faceless obviously lost the war and Nekross is obviously aligned to them, with the destruction of Nekross in that war, it became uninhabited and fell into the hands of the demons.
