Clash of Heroes HD coming to PC
Clash of Heroes HD coming to PC
That's great news, because now even people without consoles can play it (I understand that there are many on the Round Table forum), and it still is a brilliant game, the overall best game set in Ashan so far.
This is a straight port of the console downloadable version, which improved upon the DS version by tweaking the balance and adding new features.
First revealed in Ubisoft financial report:
http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/gallery_fil ... 2/2504.pdf
Confirmed by Eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... ced-for-pc
This is a straight port of the console downloadable version, which improved upon the DS version by tweaking the balance and adding new features.
First revealed in Ubisoft financial report:
http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/gallery_fil ... 2/2504.pdf
Confirmed by Eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... ced-for-pc
This is excellent news! Throughly enjoyed the DS version and can't wait to sample a HD makeover on the PC, been waiting for it for ages!
Plays nothing like a typical Heroes game of course, it just ploughs its own furrow as a brillant little strategy title all of its own.
Plays nothing like a typical Heroes game of course, it just ploughs its own furrow as a brillant little strategy title all of its own.
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The way the franchise is going... Clash of Heroes is almost better than HoMM. At least I know they did the game justice.Blocks100 wrote:This is excellent news! Throughly enjoyed the DS version and can't wait to sample a HD makeover on the PC, been waiting for it for ages!
Plays nothing like a typical Heroes game of course, it just ploughs its own furrow as a brillant little strategy all of its own.
Well it is now available from Ubisoft and Steam here in the UK. Surely at least Steam has universal EU release dates?
At 12 quid though, it's a tad pricey. (does anyone recall how much the Xbox version was?) Downloading the Steam demo now. But will maybe wait for a Steam sale with a heavy discount before I buy....
At 12 quid though, it's a tad pricey. (does anyone recall how much the Xbox version was?) Downloading the Steam demo now. But will maybe wait for a Steam sale with a heavy discount before I buy....
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Re: Clash of Heroes HD coming to PC
What kind of balance and new features? The DS version was okay, but the lack of features, imbalance, and heavy emphasis on luck rather than strategy didn't impress me.cuc wrote: This is a straight port of the console downloadable version, which improved upon the DS version by tweaking the balance and adding new features.
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Re: Clash of Heroes HD coming to PC
The DS version doesn't have a lot of cool abilities on big champion units like the Sword Master. In the DS version, he worked just like a Treant does and steals life, but in the PSN/XboxLive version he has a wall-destroying ability instead (much cooler). So the games are the same, but also very different.mr.hackcrag wrote:What kind of balance and new features? The DS version was okay, but the lack of features, imbalance, and heavy emphasis on luck rather than strategy didn't impress me.cuc wrote: This is a straight port of the console downloadable version, which improved upon the DS version by tweaking the balance and adding new features.
In all, the PS3/360 versions are more balanced. For instance, the Sylvan hero's arrow shot ability is no longer in one lane, it is in 3 seperate lanes with the damage strawn out. But some of the artifacts are still way more powerful than others. For instance, the inferno race has an artifact that gives 4 turns per round instead of 3. This is a little too powerful in my book. But that's why I play online without artifacts.
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The demo is extremely short and not good because it's just a small tutorial. The game itself is awesome and I love it because there is a lot of depth that makes it fun (that you don't see at all in the demo). So if you aren't going to buy the game because of the demo, then you are making an unfortunate mistake.Blocks100 wrote:Pity you can't properly save games in the demo. That kind of killed it for me.
I agree here, definitely worth the buy.ChimTheGrim wrote:The demo is extremely short and not good because it's just a small tutorial. The game itself is awesome and I love it because there is a lot of depth that makes it fun (that you don't see at all in the demo). So if you aren't going to buy the game because of the demo, then you are making an unfortunate mistake.Blocks100 wrote:Pity you can't properly save games in the demo. That kind of killed it for me.
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There needs to be more than five factions.
It would be interesting to be able to mix factions with some kind of "morale" penalty.
I think some matches, I start with a champion unit while opponent doesn't and this seems really unfair as champion units are so powerful that the match is decided before it's even begun. Same thing regarding calling in reinforcents. I'm not sure what determines what units players get.
There are still some imbalances like artifacts and maybe few units.
Anyway, instead of more or less porting the same game, I believe a lot more features and gameplay elements could have been implemented and reinvented to make the game amazing.
It would be interesting to be able to mix factions with some kind of "morale" penalty.
I think some matches, I start with a champion unit while opponent doesn't and this seems really unfair as champion units are so powerful that the match is decided before it's even begun. Same thing regarding calling in reinforcents. I'm not sure what determines what units players get.
There are still some imbalances like artifacts and maybe few units.
Anyway, instead of more or less porting the same game, I believe a lot more features and gameplay elements could have been implemented and reinvented to make the game amazing.
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Yeah, in the demo 1 Sucubbus beat me through a wall in one move, and i had over 80% life before that...
but the game is fun, and in SP the lack of balance isn't that much of a deal breaker...
Still, like i said before, this would be something i'd rather play on a smartphone...
but the game is fun, and in SP the lack of balance isn't that much of a deal breaker...
Still, like i said before, this would be something i'd rather play on a smartphone...
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Surely the whole point of a demo is to entice players into buying the finished product? Not being able to return to earlier saves is very dumb. They've kind of shot themselves in the foot here.ChimTheGrim wrote:The demo is extremely short and not good because it's just a small tutorial. The game itself is awesome and I love it because there is a lot of depth that makes it fun (that you don't see at all in the demo). So if you aren't going to buy the game because of the demo, then you are making an unfortunate mistake.Blocks100 wrote:Pity you can't properly save games in the demo. That kind of killed it for me.
And the price point is ridiculous. I can buy HOMMVI for £24 quid, but this DS port is more than half the price?? Don't get me wrong, I loved the original, but feel badly let down by this release so far.
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But there is no reason why the game should have a lot of problems and limitations when it's been out forever and they have had plenty of feedback and chances to make all kinds of improvements.ThunderTitan wrote:Yeah, in the demo 1 Sucubbus beat me through a wall in one move, and i had over 80% life before that...
but the game is fun, and in SP the lack of balance isn't that much of a deal breaker...
And puzzle games should not be so heavily focused on single player campaigns. There should be a lot of focus on single and multi player matches where there are lots of gameplay modes and options to create varied matches and give longevity to the game.
I really would have loved having a puzzle mode, with dozens/hundreds of puzzles, instead of a handful spread out in a awful story campaign.
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This would be like playing a Call of Duty demo and saying the action was too fast and you didn't like it for that reason--obviously you weren't cut out for Call of Duty so just let it go.
This is a game where you have to think about your moves. I've played over 300 games online, and I can say it is pretty balanced. I also play Starcraft II and Warcraft III online a lot (thousands of games), so I have experienced the "game balance" talk before.
ThunderTitan, if you lost to 1 succubus in the demo, its because the demo sucks balls and it doesn't give you a lot of units to work with. And if you're unable to buck down a whole $15 (worth 2 meals at any fast food restaurant) for this epic kick-ass game, then it's your fault.
Some of the discrepancies brought up are really laughable--can't express that enough.
This is a game where you have to think about your moves. I've played over 300 games online, and I can say it is pretty balanced. I also play Starcraft II and Warcraft III online a lot (thousands of games), so I have experienced the "game balance" talk before.
ThunderTitan, if you lost to 1 succubus in the demo, its because the demo sucks balls and it doesn't give you a lot of units to work with. And if you're unable to buck down a whole $15 (worth 2 meals at any fast food restaurant) for this epic kick-ass game, then it's your fault.
Some of the discrepancies brought up are really laughable--can't express that enough.
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Saying that a game is cheap, so ignore it's imperfections is like saying your two meals of fast food were cheap, so ignore the fact that it has rat hair in it.ChimTheGrim wrote:And if you're unable to buck down a whole $15 (worth 2 meals at any fast food restaurant) for this epic kick-ass game, then it's your fault.
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