Less Dragons as top lvl creature pls!

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Less Dragons as top lvl creature pls!

Unread postby ThunderTitan » 25 Aug 2010, 08:43

IMO only the Dungeon faction should have a Dragon as it's top level unit.

And if you really need to have another faction have a dragon how about making it an asian type one, so at least it's different enough.


And bring back the Phoenix as the Sylvan/Sorc/Rampart/Nature towns last unit... it just makes sense (nature and rebirth etc.)


I won't even mind 10 types of neutral dragons if you keep them away from town line-ups.
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Unread postby Elvin » 25 Aug 2010, 09:07

I think they'd made it clear we wouldn't have the dragon mania H5 had :) Also I've seen a phoenix in a gamescom t-shirt though I have no idea if it will be part of a lineup or neutral. I'm hoping it will be back in sylvan.
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Re: Less Dragons as top lvl creature pls!

Unread postby MistWeaver » 25 Aug 2010, 10:52

Even H3 had already too mady of them. So I agree. And about Phoenix too.

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Unread postby Soronarr » 25 Aug 2010, 11:27

Definately phoenix. It's so bad-ass it defies description an roasts dragons for breakfest.

It should be glorious. It should be awesome. It should be the strongest and awesomenest of all units...except MAYBE angels.


Either that, or make it the ultimate summong spell.

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Unread postby Tress » 25 Aug 2010, 11:55

Partially agree.
It is more or less ok in homm 3 where there is 8(9) races and two of them have dragons as top unit(wont count undead one, that's not really a dragon, just a huge zombie/ghost). Also on such count counterpart to evil dragon is ok.
On homm 5(magma one is different enough to not bother me) where there is 6 race two dragons is more or less tolerable, although they could have chosen something else. But in homm 6, if they cut race count down to 5, then they shouldn't take shortcut by filling top tier with extra dragon specially if they fill both black and undead dragon already. 2(arguably 3) out of 5 would just be too much

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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 25 Aug 2010, 13:02

I for one am for the introduction of the Mutate Gaint Whale (sic).

But seriously, maybe less dragons would be nice.
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Unread postby Qurqirish Dragon » 25 Aug 2010, 13:44

How about this (getting ready to dodge)...

Have black dragons be the only dragons (except a possible undead version in necro), and have them be several times as strong as any top level unit (as in H4), but have them only be neutral creatures (after all, why should the deign to associate with those who are really just a food source? :D )

I once made a suggestion for a town that was draconic in theme. I still like it, but if they wanted any sort of consistancy in their mythos, then they couldn't (and SHOULDN'T) do that, but if they went for an overload of dragons, I'd prefer them all in one place, rather than spread among all the factions.
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Unread postby Mirez » 25 Aug 2010, 14:06

meh I really didn't mind having dragons as top tier units. All the factions worship a dragon so it's only natural for them to use 'em.

However ubihole should really think about new looks for the dragons. Out of the 12 dragons I only liked the green dragon. (it makes such an awesome sound when the battle is won)
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Unread postby Magelord » 25 Aug 2010, 14:07

- Black Dragons associated with one faction, Yes
- Dracoliches for necro, Yes
- Phoenix for Elves, Yes

Everyone else find a new top tier unit. Would not be adverse to a mega dragon style level Boss.


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Unread postby MattII » 25 Aug 2010, 14:09

Yeah, too many dragons ruin the game, although I'd be open to adding a few at around tier 3-4 (other than they gryphon, which is a dragon in the same way that a bird is a dinosaur).

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Unread postby Arzang » 25 Aug 2010, 21:45

I totally agree. This has been one of my main arguments for a long time.

In fact, I often find the use of mythological creatures a bit exaggerated. Maybe that is why the Haven/Castle towns are usually my favorite towns..

But yeah back on topic: less dragons. And please, no bone dragons for necro!

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Unread postby ecsunotos » 26 Aug 2010, 03:41

The questions are :

Why should we have less type of dragon in game ?
Why if there are many dragons it will ruin the game ?

Anybody has reasonable answers ?

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Unread postby Elvin » 26 Aug 2010, 04:35

H5 was proof enough why not :)
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Unread postby Nelgirith » 26 Aug 2010, 07:40

ecsunotos wrote:The questions are :

Why should we have less type of dragon in game ?
Why if there are many dragons it will ruin the game ?

Anybody has reasonable answers ?
Yep H5 was terrible. Dragons are cool, but having 4/7 factions whose level 7 is a dragon is so NOT original.

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Unread postby Banedon » 27 Aug 2010, 07:36

To be honest I don't really care. It would be a little - but only a little! - more interesting to have units who aren't almost recolours of each other, though (Black Dragons vs. Emerald Dragons).

I wonder if people consider Magma Dragons as dragons.
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Unread postby Tress » 27 Aug 2010, 07:57

I wonder if people consider Magma Dragons as dragons.
I dont, but can fact that is hardly dragon be reason enough for people to not use it to fuel their pathological hatred against Homm5.

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Unread postby Elvin » 27 Aug 2010, 08:20

Recolours..? They have absolutely nothing to do with each other besides having wings and a tail :|
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Unread postby Blocks100 » 28 Aug 2010, 18:24

If HOMM VI doesn't bring back the Faerie Dragon, they'll be trouble ;)

But yes, Black Dragons are a must, as are their racial enemy Golden Dragons...but that should be it.

Everyone was pished at V cos the Dragons shunted out the more interesting Lvl 7 creatures, like Behemoths...they've gotta be re-instated!

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Unread postby MattII » 28 Aug 2010, 19:11

Blocks100 wrote:If HOMM VI doesn't bring back the Faerie Dragon, they'll be trouble ;)
Well it'll be nice to see them back if they come, but
But yes, Black Dragons are a must, as are their racial enemy Golden Dragons...but that should be it.
Gold Dragons are not the racial enemies of the Blacks, Titans are, and personally I want dragons gone from Sylvan, replace them with Treants or something, something that actually belongs in a forest.
Everyone was pished at V cos the Dragons shunted out the more interesting Lvl 7 creatures, like Behemoths...they've gotta be re-instated!
Behemoths were shunted out by Cyclopses, it's just the Fire Dragons that got people, a dragon in every other town is just too much really.

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Unread postby kleff » 29 Aug 2010, 06:40

I'd go for Bahemoth still. :)


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