Gargoyles vs. Toxic Cloud

ywhtptgtfo · Unread postby **ywhtptgtfo** » 11 Jul 2009, 03:17

I was playing a game with a computer hero sieging my town at one point. Since I do not like to waste valuable troops and suspected the hero would not have AoE spells, I got myself 7 gargoyles and clumped them together (out of laziness). I was happily crushing the computer's troops for a 2 rounds with the phoenix spell and lost 1 gargoyle each time the lich shot at me. Then suddenly, the third time the lich attacked, he killed 4 stacks of the gargoyles in one shot which prompted me to reload. So, my question is: Aren't gargoyles immune to the area effect of a lich's attack?[/quote]

Mirez · Unread postby **Mirez** » 11 Jul 2009, 11:53

they should be they are elemental

ywhtptgtfo · Unread postby **ywhtptgtfo** » 11 Jul 2009, 20:08

haloswift wrote:they should be they are elemental

Well then that's a bug.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 12 Jul 2009, 18:52

Totally arbitrary lack of immunities isn't unheard of in video games... might have been a balance issue...

Mirez · Unread postby **Mirez** » 13 Jul 2009, 11:39

I doubt, gargoyles aren't to strong and archliches aren't to weak

I think it's a bug as well

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 14 Jul 2009, 09:39

you're not seeing the forest because of the trees.... the individual match-up might not be imba, but the race one could...

Mirez · Unread postby **Mirez** » 14 Jul 2009, 11:05

necro is weak and academy is strong

nope I don't see it

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 14 Jul 2009, 11:09

I never said it was good balance... this is Ubival after all...

Elias_Maluco · Unread postby **Elias_Maluco** » 14 Jul 2009, 15:13

haloswift wrote:necro is weak and academy is strong

nope I don't see it

Well, I kind like the undead better. At least the necros have some spellpower, instead of an unnecessary huge amount of knowlegde. And necromancy and raise dead really helps early game. Academy has some good troops (and some not so good) and artificier is cool. But thats about it.

Mirez · Unread postby **Mirez** » 14 Jul 2009, 17:40

I like necro a lot more then academy, in fact necro is one of my favorites while I hate academy the most

however I really don't think this is a balance issue just a bug, later in the game academy should allready be stronger then necro, I simply don't see how making gargoyles vulnerable to death cloud is going to balance anything

Tarek · Unread postby **Tarek** » 24 Jul 2009, 17:16

hmm well I think its a bug BUT maybe they should call it Destruction cloud and let it hurt everything

anyhow I do think the academy is like the antidote for undead since they have so much mechanical units and the titans are immune to pupet master and all
so when vampi tries to sucky sucky he ends up eating rocks or steel hehe

danhvo · Unread postby **danhvo** » 30 Jul 2009, 01:22

Why do you think it's a bug? The spell's description specifically says that it affects non-undead. Gargoyles certainly fit the criteria.

Mirez · Unread postby **Mirez** » 30 Jul 2009, 12:04

I guess that must be the reason, It's just hard to imagine a stone who's hurt by a death cloud

ywhtptgtfo · Unread postby **ywhtptgtfo** » 09 Aug 2009, 10:44

danhvo wrote:Why do you think it's a bug? The spell's description specifically says that it affects non-undead. Gargoyles certainly fit the criteria.

Try hitting a unit next to a gargoyle with toxic cloud.

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