All Alone at Isengard

[Kalah]

Eomer defeated Saruman at his HQ of Isengard, but lost his entire army. Really bizarre. Thanks Yurian.

If you would like to take a look at the original page visit this link:
https://www.celestialheavens.com/show_b ... php?id=341

[danijel1990]

this is insane! pretty awesome btw

[Asheera]

Nice one, I think I've seen this bug in Heroes 5 too

[Deadguy118]

O_O So this is what happens when you lose all your creatures in a siege but still win?

[UndeadHalfOrc]

O_O So this is what happens when you lose all your creatures in a siege but still win?

But when that happens, you're supposed to lose your hero BUT keep the castle... clearly a bug.

[Angelspit]

I think I've seen this bug in Heroes IV as well... err, never mind.

[Yurian Stonebow]

What happaned was that I was playing Gondor (Blue player) with Rohan's (Teal player) Eomer as one of my main allies. I was busy elsewhere, probably repelling continous attacks coming from Mordor (Red player), who was my main Enemy. The Elves (Green player) had their hands full of Saruman's Orcish troops and allies (Orange player).



Anyways... Teal had gathered a mighty army ready to try and take out Saruman in his main base, the world-famous Isengard. Teal's and Rohan's Eomer was in fact in a tricky situation where he had to succeed in his gamble to take down the mighty Wizard due to having lost his own starting town, and other towns as well, to invading Mordor and Harad/Khand (Pink player) armies. So, Eomer invades and charges head long against Saruman's powerful HQ and its defenders who are lead by the Wizard himself.



My ally managed to win the difficult fight thanks to the flawed formula of CPU vs CPU fights in Heroes III. I recall thinking that he's done for. Well, seeing the result in the picture above, he was de facto defeated but managed to keep his Hero thanks to a mysterious bug taking place.



What makes this even more bizarre is that a human player that suffered the loss of his entire army would have lost his hero as well. That's for sure. Double defeat is possible when summoned troops (Elementals) are the only ones surviving total carnage. If that was the case, human player (defending) would suffer the loss of his or hers hero but would keep the castle, and the attacking army (human or CPU) would lose his or hers hero automatically.



After the battle was over, I tried to see if I could move the hero Eomer into the second row ("visiting hero"), but ended up with that message showing up. "This hero has no creatures...". Indeed bizarre... to say the least!

[astral76minor]

This happened once, but it was so long ago. WTF in those days. I heard H5 could do the same thing, though never saw it.

[hellegennes]

Since there is a message displayed, this case was foreseen and programmed by NWC and it's either a predicted bug or some sort of compensation in AI to AI battles, to prevent crashing in double defeat. Note that there are two ways of double defeat. One is by winning with a summoned army and the other is by killing all units with a spell (e.g. Armageddon).

[ThunderTitan]

Too bad they didn't do the same for H4... (now where did i put that pic)

[dark raider]

pretty cool....what map is this?? is it a custum made map?? is it for the wake of gods mod? or is it an original map from heroes 3?

[Kalah]

It's from "Tolkien's Middle-earth", an H3 map made by Yurian Stonebow.

[Storm-giant]

I still remenber in RoE I manage to survive a normal battle with un-expert resurrection, butt after the battle me hero was alone, and still could pick up resources and chest