If I remenber correctly, you must first ask Avalanche(who in a house near the inn of Deyja and He is the gran master of earth). Then you should be able to enter the cave, and you will find the watcher's ring of earth. For entering in the White Cliff Caves, you should be able after requesting avalanche the quest. At least my party who ended the game still can enter.GracieMae wrote: One other question, should I be able to enter the white cliff caves? I am a priest of light now but still can't enter although on an earlier save before I restarted, I went in there very early on and fought a lot of trolls and earth ele's.
MM7Rev4modR1 a mod for might and magic 7 has been released!
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This is a great work. I couldn't try it yet with no computer.
MM7 was the only MM I've ever played, and played a lot. I was playing these months ago, gathering material to send Angelspit for the site, but my computer broke and I couldn't get a new one since then (this suffering might end next month, though ).
I wanted to ask if there's a walkthough with all the changings so, after playing until the very end, the player could really check ou the new features?
MM7 was the only MM I've ever played, and played a lot. I was playing these months ago, gathering material to send Angelspit for the site, but my computer broke and I couldn't get a new one since then (this suffering might end next month, though ).
I wanted to ask if there's a walkthough with all the changings so, after playing until the very end, the player could really check ou the new features?
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I've found some bugs in this MOD!!!!
It happens on Emerald Isles. So I have to do much tests in my mod I usually use autosave.
So when you begin new game, there is an autosave...
Try to load it and you will find a lot of bugs!!!
You will get invisible NPC - mentor Alex - similar as teacher margaret in original game?? She told you abot Isles.
Near first vell you will see skeleton dwarf - tell something about danger in stone city...dvarwes are dying...after all you'll met him again near air guild - he will say that stone city is closed forever, everyone is dead now =) in 5 minutes all dead =)
So game became unsolvable - no Nighon tunnels, no stone city =)
It happens on Emerald Isles. So I have to do much tests in my mod I usually use autosave.
So when you begin new game, there is an autosave...
Try to load it and you will find a lot of bugs!!!
You will get invisible NPC - mentor Alex - similar as teacher margaret in original game?? She told you abot Isles.
Near first vell you will see skeleton dwarf - tell something about danger in stone city...dvarwes are dying...after all you'll met him again near air guild - he will say that stone city is closed forever, everyone is dead now =) in 5 minutes all dead =)
So game became unsolvable - no Nighon tunnels, no stone city =)
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IMO, whenever something becomes a "must have", it generally means the design is bad. More than that, it has the potential to railroad how players play. Which MM generally does anyway, but why make it even worse?Bimbasto wrote:Fully agree with Vilx point of viev. At the starting point things seems to be very easy. However just visit Barrow Downs and you will see some "nice" creatures in reasonable numbers. 4 Carnage bows are just to "must" have.
And, of course, promotions are essential.
MM is not a strictly linear game and IMO a more satisfying solution to design challenges is to let the player find a class/party-based solution. In a strongly or strictly linear game, like DS or DS2, players don't necessarily have the freedom to wander off and find what they need, so they get handed a plot device (e.g., in DS2, the ballista you use in Snowbrook Haven), use it to overcome a cinematic challenge, then dump it and move on.
Commonly, a Monty Hauling or handing out artifact-level items to infants is not only unsatisfing in gameplay (or at least very tricky to pull off), but utterly unrealistic in the context of the game world. Not that Might and Magic has ever presented a coherently realistic game world ever.
@Grail Quest
May be "must have" is bit to strong, so to say. Idea is that these bows are very helpfull. While playing the Mod first/second time without any ideas, what will happen, weapons like these will help a lot. When the game became more familiar, player could find another solutions. Some players already did it. However, Bows will remove some "long" play at early stages of the game, when player need run to the Temple after killing one/two goblins, for example.
May be "must have" is bit to strong, so to say. Idea is that these bows are very helpfull. While playing the Mod first/second time without any ideas, what will happen, weapons like these will help a lot. When the game became more familiar, player could find another solutions. Some players already did it. However, Bows will remove some "long" play at early stages of the game, when player need run to the Temple after killing one/two goblins, for example.
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Scill Barrels
Hi everybody. Who can tell about all "skill barrels" (which add expert level to all characters like in Castle Harmondaile (expert of body bilding)) in the MM7 BDJ modF ? Where is it all and what skill?
And question about Harmondaile Town Portal. How do it works?
And question about Harmondaile Town Portal. How do it works?
The barrels give Misc. skills. One is on the roof of one of Erathia buildings. It's near the Couriers' Guild.
To use the Harmondale Hub you need the keys. Give them all to some character and when you need to go somewhere give the right key to the first character.
To use the Harmondale Hub you need the keys. Give them all to some character and when you need to go somewhere give the right key to the first character.
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Does anyone have the final patch for the Rev4 mod?
I have heard from other boards that there was a final patch after the Rev4 mod was made available here. Among other things, it deleted the Modder's Precious rings (which didn't work) and provided a new matrix for choosing a second class in the Coding Wizard's fortress (allowed a cleric to become a paladin, for one). Does anyone know where this patch might be found?
I LOVE this mod! I finished the Rev4, and it has renewed my enthusiasm for MM7. Favorite things--the "welcoming committee" in the Barrow Downs (I was in ecstasy when I first saw them); also the new entrance to the Arena (allows you to spell up and *then* save, so if you get massacred you don't have to spell up again). I don't mind the superpowers in the beginning, because you'll need them later. Not to mention how fun it is to blast the pesky hobgoblins in Harmondale with Bows of Carnage.
I did somehow miss the "Hurler of Mountains." Was he in the White Cliff Caves?
I LOVE this mod! I finished the Rev4, and it has renewed my enthusiasm for MM7. Favorite things--the "welcoming committee" in the Barrow Downs (I was in ecstasy when I first saw them); also the new entrance to the Arena (allows you to spell up and *then* save, so if you get massacred you don't have to spell up again). I don't mind the superpowers in the beginning, because you'll need them later. Not to mention how fun it is to blast the pesky hobgoblins in Harmondale with Bows of Carnage.
I did somehow miss the "Hurler of Mountains." Was he in the White Cliff Caves?
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Teleports--lots of spoilers
There are different kinds of teleports. The well in the little town south of Castle Harmondale will teleport you to some places if you have the right keys (Avlee, Bracada, Deyja, Tatalia, Evenmorn Island). You get the keys by completing the Courier Guild quests given by the Courier Guild in Erathia (located where the paladin promoter used to be).
There are two teleport pedestals in front of the Town Hall in Erathia, one for Pierpont and one for Harmondale. To use them, you need a town portal pass that can be bought in the Inn (one trip per pass).
In addition, the five maps you can teleport to from Harmondale have "home portals" in them (they look like ordinary pedestals). You need a "home"key to use them (also obtained from the Courier Guild). Oddly, they don't take you back to Harmondale, but to Erathia.
Finally, there is a key that will teleport you to Emerald Isle (also obtained from the Courier Guild, I think, but I don't remember for sure). You use that key on the teleport square next to the stables in Bracada.
All the keys are used by placing the one you want in the inventory of the first character, and giving all the other keys to another character.
On a completely different subject, I found where the "Hurler of Mountains" is. Ouch!
There are two teleport pedestals in front of the Town Hall in Erathia, one for Pierpont and one for Harmondale. To use them, you need a town portal pass that can be bought in the Inn (one trip per pass).
In addition, the five maps you can teleport to from Harmondale have "home portals" in them (they look like ordinary pedestals). You need a "home"key to use them (also obtained from the Courier Guild). Oddly, they don't take you back to Harmondale, but to Erathia.
Finally, there is a key that will teleport you to Emerald Isle (also obtained from the Courier Guild, I think, but I don't remember for sure). You use that key on the teleport square next to the stables in Bracada.
All the keys are used by placing the one you want in the inventory of the first character, and giving all the other keys to another character.
On a completely different subject, I found where the "Hurler of Mountains" is. Ouch!
1) Bracada, Tatalia, Deyja, Evenmorn (Grand Temple of the Moon), Avlee and Barrow Downs. (correct me if I'm wrong)
2) The spell has been unmade and needs to be restored, which shall be done later on in the game.
3) Yes. Your characters will get Dark Magic automatically at one point and you will be able to buy the spells, too.
2) The spell has been unmade and needs to be restored, which shall be done later on in the game.
3) Yes. Your characters will get Dark Magic automatically at one point and you will be able to buy the spells, too.
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