Nightmare Evolution

Omega_Destroyer · Unread postby **Omega_Destroyer** » 03 Dec 2007, 16:54

You don't even have to guess what they are talking about. Just look at the pics of one of their parties.

Muszka · Unread postby **Muszka** » 03 Dec 2007, 16:59

Metathron wrote:
ThunderTitan wrote:It's part of the faction that comes from HELL... and you're suprised it's a demon?!
Demon or not, it's still (in the shape of) a horse.

A demon is a malvolent spirit, thus it can posses any creatures body. The evil soul can make some phiscally visible changes on the body. And so can the posessed body can become stripping bitch, a three headed dog, a horse with modified horn.

Or another explanation. It's like boogeyman, it has the form of the fear of that one who is looking at it. So can be the demon spirits(Pol wrote something the same).

Pol · Unread postby **Pol** » 03 Dec 2007, 17:04

Omega_Destroyer wrote:You don't even have to guess what they are talking about. Just look at the pics of one of their parties.

Not everyone (have chance) to see these images, although they leaked they were sort of censored...

Anyway (if) I (would) seen a bigger set = means that I (would) have a better idea..?

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 03 Dec 2007, 17:09

Muszka wrote:a horse with modified horn.

Since when do ordinary horses have horns?

Pol · Unread postby **Pol** » 03 Dec 2007, 17:11

Gaidal Cain wrote:
Muszka wrote:a horse with modified horn.
Since when do ordinary horses have horns?

I would leave it like a rhetorical question...

Omega_Destroyer · Unread postby **Omega_Destroyer** » 03 Dec 2007, 17:14

Muszka · Unread postby **Muszka** » 03 Dec 2007, 17:22

Gaidal Cain wrote:
Muszka wrote:a horse with modified horn.
Since when do ordinary horses have horns?

excelent point. Nothing is perfect.

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 03 Dec 2007, 18:59

ThunderTitan wrote:and the Succubus is in the shape of a stripper... your point?!

The initial contention was that some of the nightmares looked too horse-like:

Kareeah Indaga wrote:The WoG and H4 versions are just too horse-like.

To which Hodgepodge replied:

HodgePodge wrote:The reason they look like 'horses' is because they ARE horses.

Then:

Gaidal Cain wrote:Except that that is wrong. Mare in "nightmare" is a kind of demon. It still has that meaning in f.ex. Swedish.

3. A demon or spirit once thought to plague sleeping people.

ThunderTitan wrote:It's part of the faction that comes from HELL... and you're suprised it's a demon?!

So just because it's part of the inferno, all of its units have to be demons? Are the griffins and angels actually humans in disguise, then? After all, they come from the human faction.

All I'm saying is that who's to say whether the nightmare is "just a horse" or a demon? I much prefer the straightforward idea that it's a corrupted horse-like creature (much like the Ringwraith's steeds in The Lord of the Rings) than the convoluted theory that takes a huge leap by assuming that some sort of spirit that plagues people's dreams and a demonic horse creature are one and the same merely because they happen to share the same name.

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 03 Dec 2007, 19:23

Metathron wrote:All I'm saying is that who's to say whether the nightmare is "just a horse" or a demon? I much prefer the straightforward idea that it's a corrupted horse-like creature (much like the Ringwraith's steeds in The Lord of the Rings) than the convoluted theory that takes a huge leap by assuming that some sort of spirit that plagues people's dreams and a demonic horse creature are one and the same merely because they happen to share the same name.

I think it's rather obvious that someone heard of nightmares as monsters and then thought that "mare" meant horse. The idea of someone coming up with a horselike moster and then thinking "nightmare sounds like a good name" seems far more far-fetched to me.

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 03 Dec 2007, 19:31

In which case it has nothing to do with your dictionary definition anymore and the nightmare we have in the HoMM games is a completely separate creature. That it might have been created through misinterpretation should be of no consequence.

innokenti · Unread postby **innokenti** » 03 Dec 2007, 22:30

I rather think that Nigthmares have been portrayed as horses because of the word play you can have in English.

Everyone likes a good pun.

HIV for me. It looks suitably proper and not ridiculous like the HV ones.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 03 Dec 2007, 23:51

Metathron wrote: So just because it's part of the inferno, all of its units have to be demons? Are the griffins and angels actually humans in disguise, then? After all, they come from the human faction.

Except that HUMANS DON'T LIVE IN HELL! If it comes from hell it's a demon... that's the rule. Now if their description said that the demons found then in the garbage dump behind your house then you'd have something.

And HP isn't wrong, they're horses, just demon horses instead of regular horses. Just like the Unicorn is a magical horse.

That it might have been created through misinterpretation should be of no consequence.

And that's not a Succubus because in the original description there's no mention of any reversed skeletal wings...

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 04 Dec 2007, 18:35

Love the "When in Rome, do as the Romanians" line of thought.

Vintage TT.

Neigh, neigh.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 04 Dec 2007, 22:17

Metathron wrote: Love the "When in Rome, do as the Romanians" line of thought.

Steal and beg?!

So, what other things live in hell then?

Sir William S Titan · Unread postby **Sir William S Titan** » 07 Dec 2007, 19:20

H4

No horn. Not just a simple copy, and edit.

dallasmavs41 · Unread postby **dallasmavs41** » 07 Dec 2007, 23:14

I like the H5 Hell Charger here. I'm not a huge fan of any of these, but it's the best looking IMO.

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