Holy crap-You MUST see this! (academy strat)

[Elvin]

I suspect Mytical and GOW will find this amusing even if they don't believe this can work Go academy!
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.p ... genumber=1

[Banedon]

"Interesting" is the only word I'll use to desrcibe it. Can't get any more specific without more experience with Hotseat play, but my first reactions are in general negative: mass magic, after all, can only get you so far and final victory goes to whosoever wins the battle with creatures. A hero can only act so often, and if Counterspell is available...

Well like I said, I don't know.

Anyway I bet some people are wondering why I haven't replied to that thread of mine. I'll just write a short note here: I have exams tomorrow

[Mirez]

interesting strategy but he forgets that phoenix are easy killed wiht pid lord, ranger, wraith not to mention blind spell

who cares I prefer might above magic anyways

[Elvin]

...And cold death.There is a random element,seems risky and is rather unbelievable(there ARE some exaggerations) but it can can prove powerful.I'll try it out and tell you my impessions.

[Banedon]

Reading that topic was a bad idea Now I can't put it out of my head. Truth be told however the strategy seems to be getting more and more viable. The players involved in the screenshots were all obviously competent, and if these things happened...

I still don't know, but it appears possible.

[DaemianLucifer]

What I dont get is where they got so much money to build all that army,and equip heavy artifacts on them.Sure,you can creep and claim the mines,but that depends a lot on what you get guarding those mines.If its unfavorable,youll loose for sure.

Also,the second fight,97 familiars seem very small to me.It shouldve been quite much more,and 100 mana wouldnt stand much chance against them.

[Elvin]

@Banedon
Forgive me then for bringing it to your attention It's not his opponents that concern me but the rate at which you gain power this way.Even if you don't get a phoenix you can do other interesting combos,motw can ensure that much.

@DL
I question these myself.As I do with titans on week 5.

[The Mad Dragon]

I question how someone can have 500 Marksmen by week 5.

[PhoenixReborn]

I question how someone can have 500 Marksmen by week 5.

A second haven castle...or the hero that starts with peasants.

Generally speaking, Elvin's arguments are much more convincing to me in that thread. I've seen the power of marksman, I haven't seen the power of a wizard who can cast three different spells every turn.

[The Mad Dragon]

And peasants have what to do with marksmen?

[Meandor]

That strategy looks scary, very scary

[The Mad Dragon]

Honestly, I don't buy the Academy strat. Spells are fine and all, but I seriously do not believe that you could wipe out an army with just spells.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

I believe the strategy would require a fairly resource rich map and a bit of luck.

What I would like to see is the day by day build order. Then if the results could be replicated on different maps it could be put forth as a viable strategy. Otherwise it is hit and miss or a strategy for a particular map.

Until then I am very much a doubter.

GOW

[Banedon]

And peasants have what to do with marksmen?

Training, Haven's special ability. You can turn Peasants into Marksmen into Squires into Inquistors into Champions, though it costs a ton of gold.

Honestly, I don't buy the Academy strat. Spells are fine and all, but I seriously do not believe that you could wipe out an army with just spells.

You don't wipe it out, you reduce its effectiveness. A small army can easily beat a big one if the big army's cused by Mass Slow, Mass Vulnerability, Mass Confusion, Weakness and so on while the small army's blessed by Mass Divine Strength, Righteous Might, Mass Bless and so on.

Elvin - It's OK though. I'll probably still pass the exam (though an 'A' is a different matter).

[vhilhu]

What I dont get is where they got so much money to build all that army,and equip heavy artifacts on them.

its an ancient chinese war-secret.

(a chinese patch that beefs academy up maybe?)

[Angelspit]

And peasants have what to do with marksmen?

Training. Or maybe I didn't understand the question?

[Meandor]

(a chinese patch that beefs academy up maybe?)

They said in the first post that they play 2.0. In other words HoF.

[Jolly Joker]

I'm not surprised. It's what I've said all along. With Academy you have to sacrifice creature dwellings to go for magic and mini-artis. It's where you excel, so you've got to do it.

[PhoenixReborn]

Not to mention that the dramatically reduced costs for the mages guilds in recent versions of the game make it a much more viable strategy. But still it's just as easy to get word of light and arcane armor and then where are all these victories?

[DaemianLucifer]

Not to mention that the dramatically reduced costs for the mages guilds in recent versions of the game make it a much more viable strategy. But still it's just as easy to get word of light and arcane armor and then where are all these victories?

Exactly.Its a risky and very luck dependant strategy.