Random thoughts

[DaemianLucifer]

Nutella... How I loathe thee.

Well I dont like nutella either,but I dont know if the brand I like is known in other places,so I said nutella as its wider known.

[asandir]

I used to love nutella, but then I turned 10.

and my random thought .... the Ashes starts in 3 days!!! Bring it!

[Omega_Destroyer]

Ashes?

[asandir]

Bah, untutored savage!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

I eat nutella on bread almost every day. Sometimes that's all I eat in a day

@stefan.urlus: Have you heard?! Our cooking game has been approved

[ThunderTitan]

I eat nutella on bread almost every day. Sometimes that's all I eat in a day

See you in a few years then...

[DaemianLucifer]

Macaroni with jerkin,sausage,yogurt and a pickle=Yum!

Bah,reaching 100+ posts in less than 24 hours is no fun anymore.Luckilly my 10k are just 80 posts away

[Mytical]

When you enter an argument it is good to know all sides of the argument, else you are wrong from the outset. Lets say for instance you want to argue that the sky is blue above you (and there is no clouds). Now of course color is subjective, and the only reason we call a color what we call it is because somebody a long time ago said it was that. Besides that; however, you should also know that it is because all the other colors pass through and that is why you see blue. So since all colors pass through the sky, somebody could argue that the sky is all colors, but you only see blue. Now once you have all the facts from every side, and decided which way you go, argue against this fact to somebody who always puts up the best arguement. Argue to the best of your ability, with all the facts you know, so you can see where your own argument for it might be flawed. That is the best path to true knowledge.

[ThunderTitan]

No, that's the best way to get lost in the details. The sky is BLUE coz that's what we call this particular colour. If you changed the word for green it wouldn't make the sky another colour. As for the rest, there is no sky!

[theLuckyDragon]

I think the problem rests in the verb used. I propose replacing "is" with "appears to our eyes as"

[ThunderTitan]

What is refered to as "the sky" is indeed blue.

[Corribus]

No, that's the best way to get lost in the details. The sky is BLUE coz that's what we call this particular colour. If you changed the word for green it wouldn't make the sky another colour. As for the rest, there is no sky!

You get in these sorts of stupid semantics problems because the original statement (the sky is blue) is imprecise and thus lends itself to many different possible (but equally tiring) interpretations.

If instead of saying The sky is blue., maybe it's better to put it this way:

When light in the wavelength range of ~450 - ~500 nm passes through the atmosphere, it interacts with gas molecules and is scattered in all directions by a process called Raleigh Scattering. We thus perceive that the entire sky is "filled" with light predominantly in this wavelength range. Since we arbitrarily refer to light of these wavelengths as "blue", we therefore typically say that the sky is blue, even though we recognize that the sky is not a material object that can, in fact, possess a color, nor does the name we call that color have any intrinsic meaning, as it is just an construct representation invented by humans to represent something that we could not otherwise express. In fact, we could just as easily say that light of these wavelengths appears to us as the color "cow". Then we would say that the sky is cow. For that matter, the word "sky" is also a construct with no real meaning. We could just as easily refer to the atmosphere above us as "fiddle". Then we could say "The fiddle is cow." Would we be wrong to do so? No, of course not, because words are simply representations of concepts, and we use them to convey thoughts, which really don't exist except in our own heads. Of course, if you go around saying "The Fiddle Is Cow", people might look at you kind of funny because they don't understand the random sounds that you are using to represent the neural oscillations which give rise to your thoughts, but whatever the case, it doesn't change the fact that regardless of language, What is, is. The visual symbols and audio cues we use to represent what is is, and what is is doing, don't really change the nature of either is in that relationship. Of course, even the sentence what is, is doesn't really have any true meaning either because all three words what, is, and is are also just meaningless contructs. In fact, why the hell am I typing anything? It's not like any words have any true, concrete meaning at all. There is no computer. There is no me. Oh, god, there's no me! I don't exist? But maybe it's not me who doesn't exist, but maybe it's YOU who don't exist. And if none of you exist and I'm the only entity in the whole universe, then I can assign whatever word I damn well please to describe the body of air above me and the way my eyes perceive the light that is scattered off of it. And so I say to you, The Sky is Blue and you can just live with it (not that you exist - just speaking hypothetically).

[Kalah]

[Pol]

That's a lot of text output to non-existing man. From other aspect Great remark

[Elvin]

Somebody shoot me in the head to ease my suffering!

[Omega_Destroyer]

This reminds me of Torment when you are recounting your experiences about arguing that a guy doesn't exist and then he just vanishes.

[theLuckyDragon]

Corribus, you just summarised what some colleagues of mine from the Philology section of the faculty have been doing for weeks now in their linguistics course. You really have a gift for explaining, professor!

[ThunderTitan]

Didn't i already cover all that?! There is no sky. Stop repeting the same thing over and over, that's my job.

[Corribus]

Didn't i already cover all that?! There is no sky. Stop repeting the same thing over and over, that's my job.

I thought I already made it clear: There is no YOU. And I must say, for someone who doesn't exist, you certainly do talk a lot.

[asandir]

great work Corribus, both in the Sky is Blue bit and your post above

@stefan.urlus: Have you heard?! Our cooking game has been approved

yep I heard, now just gotta put a thread together