Patch Change Discussion

Raspyn · Unread postby **Raspyn** » 06 Jun 2006, 16:28

There were a few key points from the readme that kind of stuck out at me, and I am curious how they have been changed.

- Druid Elder's Mana Feed ability fixed
- Temptress hero specialization fixed
- Shadow Witches have new model
- Demon character fixed
- Duel presets rebalanced

I'm curious how exactly all of these changed.... but in particular by saying the demon character "fixed", does this mean increased initiative / speed for this otherwise useless unit?

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 06 Jun 2006, 16:32

- Shadow Witches have new model

That's the one I want to know about.

Angelspit · Unread postby **Angelspit** » 06 Jun 2006, 16:35

Yeah, anyone can try the patch and post a screenshot?

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:16

Raspyn wrote:There were a few key points from the readme that kind of stuck out at me, and I am curious how they have been changed.

- Druid Elder's Mana Feed ability fixed
- Temptress hero specialization fixed
- Shadow Witches have new model
- Demon character fixed
- Duel presets rebalanced

I'm curious how exactly all of these changed.... but in particular by saying the demon character "fixed", does this mean increased initiative / speed for this otherwise useless unit?

It says demon character,not faction.So I guess they fixed the inferno hero(I dont know whats tehere to fix with him,except tweaking the gating a bit).

Raspyn · Unread postby **Raspyn** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:50

DaemianLucifer wrote:
Raspyn wrote:There were a few key points from the readme that kind of stuck out at me, and I am curious how they have been changed.

- Druid Elder's Mana Feed ability fixed
- Temptress hero specialization fixed
- Shadow Witches have new model
- Demon character fixed
- Duel presets rebalanced

I'm curious how exactly all of these changed.... but in particular by saying the demon character "fixed", does this mean increased initiative / speed for this otherwise useless unit?
It says demon character,not faction.So I guess they fixed the inferno hero(I dont know whats tehere to fix with him,except tweaking the gating a bit).

Since they did say demon character, I was thinking they changed the stats on the horned demon / horned overseer unit.

I suppose this line is fairly open to interpretation, though.

Wolfshanze · Unread postby **Wolfshanze** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:50

The Berserk spell now has the unit attack the nearest unit... instead of just sit there and twiddle it's thumbs for a turn which is what ALWAYS happened whenever I used Berserk... it was a useless spell for me... always made me mad... that's the only real fix I have noticed!

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:54

The looks of the witches are changed? So Nival guys come here and read our complains? Or did they just fix some pixel glitches or something? If not, why dont they change blood furies as well?

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:55

Wolfshanze wrote:The Berserk spell now has the unit attack the nearest unit... instead of just sit there and twiddle it's thumbs for a turn which is what ALWAYS happened whenever I used Berserk... it was a useless spell for me... always made me mad... that's the only real fix I have noticed!

It worked perfectly for me evry time.

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 06 Jun 2006, 17:59

DaemianLucifer wrote:
Wolfshanze wrote:The Berserk spell now has the unit attack the nearest unit... instead of just sit there and twiddle it's thumbs for a turn which is what ALWAYS happened whenever I used Berserk... it was a useless spell for me... always made me mad... that's the only real fix I have noticed!
It worked perfectly for me evry time.

Worked for me too!

Its quite odd but people tend to encounter totally different bugs.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:06

Purple Sky wrote:Its quite odd but people tend to encounter totally different bugs.

No,not weird.Just shows how unfinished and untested the game is.

Wolfshanze · Unread postby **Wolfshanze** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:08

I noticed there are seperate patches for the US and Euro versions of the game... maybe the US and Euro versions have differant bugs... as-with everything else with this game, maybe only Americans get useless Berserk spells that only make a creature sit there and look stupid instead of attacking.

As for the Demon Character fixed... I have no idea what that is... I've already installed the patch (with my inferno mod removed) and checked the game... I could see nothing differant with the demon creature in the town (Horned Demon or Horned Oversear). Not a single stat was changed on either from the default... so whatever this "Demon Creature Fixed" thing is supposed to be, it has nothing to do with changing the stats on the Demon or making him any more effective... by default, in v1.1, he's still a useless unit (time to put Inferno mod back in). Anybody got any ideas what this patch is supposed to fix with "the Demon Character"?!?! It's not the Horned Demon, that's for sure.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:17

Wolfshanze wrote:As for the Demon Character fixed... I have no idea what that is... I've already installed the patch (with my inferno mod removed) and checked the game... I could see nothing differant with the demon creature in the town (Horned Demon or Horned Oversear). Not a single stat was changed on either from the default... so whatever this "Demon Creature Fixed" thing is supposed to be, it has nothing to do with changing the stats on the Demon or making him any more effective... by default, in v1.1, he's still a useless unit (time to put Inferno mod back in). Anybody got any ideas what this patch is supposed to fix with "the Demon Character"?!?! It's not the Horned Demon, that's for sure.

It either fixes the demon heroes in general(I still dont know whats there to fix in general),or it fixes agrael(again,I saw nothing that needs fixing).

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:18

DaemianLucifer wrote:
Wolfshanze wrote:As for the Demon Character fixed... I have no idea what that is... I've already installed the patch (with my inferno mod removed) and checked the game... I could see nothing differant with the demon creature in the town (Horned Demon or Horned Oversear). Not a single stat was changed on either from the default... so whatever this "Demon Creature Fixed" thing is supposed to be, it has nothing to do with changing the stats on the Demon or making him any more effective... by default, in v1.1, he's still a useless unit (time to put Inferno mod back in). Anybody got any ideas what this patch is supposed to fix with "the Demon Character"?!?! It's not the Horned Demon, that's for sure.
It either fixes the demon heroes in general(I still dont know whats there to fix in general),or it fixes agrael(again,I saw nothing that needs fixing).

Maybe they are going to loose the dungeon model they made for Agrael out of laziness?

Wolfshanze · Unread postby **Wolfshanze** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:23

I've taken a further look... with 1.1 installed, there's some new PAK files in the data directory... right-off, I noticed some new (or changed) Demon MODELS listed. Perhaps this is the "Demon Character Fixed" thingie... they changed or fixed a Demon model?!?!?

Purple Sky · Unread postby **Purple Sky** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:26

Wolfshanze wrote:I've taken a further look... with 1.1 installed, there's some new PAK files in the data directory... right-off, I noticed some new (or changed) Demon MODELS listed. Perhaps this is the "Demon Character Fixed" thingie... they changed or fixed a Demon model?!?!?

What i said. I disliked that Agrael was dungeon hero looking. I reckon they changed that.

Wolfshanze · Unread postby **Wolfshanze** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:39

Is it just me, or have they not yet fixed all the missing descriptions for artifacts... either I'm blind, or I didn't see this listed in "bugs fixed"... not much of a bug fix if they can't even squash this very obvious bug.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:43

Purple Sky wrote:
Wolfshanze wrote:I've taken a further look... with 1.1 installed, there's some new PAK files in the data directory... right-off, I noticed some new (or changed) Demon MODELS listed. Perhaps this is the "Demon Character Fixed" thingie... they changed or fixed a Demon model?!?!?
What i said. I disliked that Agrael was dungeon hero looking. I reckon they changed that.

No,no,not agrael,but demon hero.The one chubby fellow that walks carying that stupid axe.Yes,Id like that one fixed.

Sikon · Unread postby **Sikon** » 06 Jun 2006, 18:44

Well, it's supposed to forestall a plot twist... (I will remain spoilerless here, although it seems so blatantly obvious in retrospect that it makes me cry...)

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 06 Jun 2006, 19:07

DaemianLucifer wrote: No,no,not agrael,but demon hero.The one chubby fellow that walks carying that stupid axe.Yes,Id like that one fixed.

Permanently.... *chop*

@Sikon
We kinda figured it out before the game went gold by the names... Orfinn takes credit as first.

HodgePodge · Unread postby **HodgePodge** » 06 Jun 2006, 19:09

Has the patch been released? I heard it was just released … where do I go to download it?

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