theres a bear in that picture.Eternor wrote:Some sonceptart: http://www.nival.com/skin/homm5/fon_pages.jpg
This sounds to me a little like the Academy special ability--Artificer--that lets you up the stats on your units with the artfacts you crafted using various resources. (Jolly Joker wrote:Okay, some more info about the Dwarven Town:
...Rune Magic has no spells, but Runes which don't need Mana, but Ore/Wood to be activated. Runes are basically more creature abilities than spells in the strictest sense, albeit there are things that could be described as spell effects. However, those Rune effects cannot be dispelled, of course.
I was a little disappointed in the HV Academy campaign that you never really got much of a chance to play with this skill, since you never had an Academy town after mission 2.)
) or air or i don t know but for me , and i am fully aware this is just a strictly personnal opinin ... fire is the right oposite of ice so ...
Saying Warcraft has sucky lore invalidates your opinion entirelyKilop wrote:First I must say i dont agrea about the hurt lore changes made to the Warcraft universe ... It was sucky since the beginnig
But then they could just make the dwarf workship a water dragon ( you now, ice is just cold water
anyway, maybe a half fire half iced dragon , or just the plain smoking heart of the mountain , not to quote WoW again
What does that even mean?Kilop wrote:remember : medivh was killed by a bunch of people...
my opinion is valuable
back to the subject now...
i like this idea of a new lore since the old one was a bit too chaotic, but i hope they don t mess with it, it exist for a purpose ( i.e i dislike warhammer 40k idea to make humans workship a C tan since they are now non credible )
Level 1: Defender (Enraged Armored, Large Shield)Tysar wrote:The lore is already written, they just didn't bother putting it up on the site yet. You expect them to erase the elemental dragon of fire from history just so there isnt another dragon unit? Or perphaps make the dwarves dragonless and wild like the orcs and make the dragon of fire be worshipped by some random lower race? That sort of retconning happens a lot in the warcraft universe and it does hurt it.
btw. do we even know what kind of a dragon it is? It could be a mechanical one like in HoMM 4 academy (although i'd hope it'd look beter this time...)
Someone posted something slightly different in the official forums, but it was very, very close (it sounded like the same units, but the names were slightly different). Could just be they translated it from that magazine so the names were off. But for example, Fire Mage was "Rune Mage", etc.Paradox wrote:Level 1: Defender (Enraged Armored, Large Shield)Tysar wrote:The lore is already written, they just didn't bother putting it up on the site yet. You expect them to erase the elemental dragon of fire from history just so there isnt another dragon unit? Or perphaps make the dwarves dragonless and wild like the orcs and make the dragon of fire be worshipped by some random lower race? That sort of retconning happens a lot in the warcraft universe and it does hurt it.
btw. do we even know what kind of a dragon it is? It could be a mechanical one like in HoMM 4 academy (although i'd hope it'd look beter this time...)
Upg: Stout Defender (Shield Wall)
Level 2: Axe Fighter (Wound)
Upg: Axe Thrower (Shooter, No Melee Penalty)
Level 3: Bear Rider (Large, Enraged)
Upg: Blackbear Rider (Armored, Paw Strike)
Level 4: Brawler (Immunity to Mind Control)
Upg: Berserker (Berserker Rage)
Level 5: Fire Mage (Shooter. Caster. Magic-proof. Mark of Fire).
Upg: Flame Mage (Crossfire)
Level 6: Thane (Large. Teleport. Stormstrike. Immunity to Lightning).
Upg: Stormlord ((Stormbolt)
Level 7: Lava Dragon ( Fire Breath. Fire Shield. Elemental. Immunity to Fire.)
Upg: Magma Dragon (Magma Shield instead of Fire Shield)
I think dwarves might be my new favourite race...
Axe_Fighter
Axe_Thrower
Bear_Rider
Berserker
Blackbear_Rider
Brawler
Defender
Fire_Dragon
Flame_Mage
Magma_Dragon
Rune_Mage
Stout_Defender
Thane
Warlord
If full lore is aviable only to developers then they can change it.The lore is already written, they just didn't bother putting it up on the site yet. You expect them to erase the elemental dragon of fire from history just so there isnt another dragon unit? Or perphaps make the dwarves dragonless and wild like the orcs and make the dragon of fire be worshipped by some random lower race? That sort of retconning happens a lot in the warcraft universe and it does hurt it.
That means that warcraft story sucks, old heroes story was too chaotic and new one shouldn`t have contradictions.What does that even mean?
Dragon gods are beings that we can't understand. It would be too much like D&D for theme to be human-like.Meandor wrote: If full lore is aviable only to developers then they can change it.
Races aren`t worshipinig dragons, they worship dragon gods. These dragon gods can be even elves or orcs or <insert your race here>, dragon god is more like status- one wizard upon achieving great powers was named 7th dragon god. So it isn`t neccesary that tier 7 must be dragon.
Warcraft lore is great. Old hero lore is original and new story has potential.That means that warcraft story sucks, old heroes story was too chaotic and new one shouldn`t have contradictions.
First off, since when was the lore only available to the developers? Did someone sneak into their offices and "leak" the story? They've already given us the story. And the Dwarves worship the Dragon of Fire. Why should they change that "because some people don't like Fire Dragons". That's idiotic.Meandor wrote:If full lore is aviable only to developers then they can change it.The lore is already written, they just didn't bother putting it up on the site yet. You expect them to erase the elemental dragon of fire from history just so there isnt another dragon unit? Or perphaps make the dwarves dragonless and wild like the orcs and make the dragon of fire be worshipped by some random lower race? That sort of retconning happens a lot in the warcraft universe and it does hurt it.
Races aren`t worshipinig dragons, they worship dragon gods. These dragon gods can be even elves or orcs or <insert your race here>, dragon god is more like status- one wizard upon achieving great powers was named 7th dragon god. So it isn`t neccesary that tier 7 must be dragon.
First off, that wasn't even the question. What he said made no sense. Secondly, what you said makes no sense either ("old heroes story was too chaotic"?)That means that warcraft story sucks, old heroes story was too chaotic and new one shouldn`t have contradictions.What does that even mean?
First of all, my comment about changing the lore has nothing to do with dwarves. That was more general comment about changing lore.First off, since when was the lore only available to the developers? Did someone sneak into their offices and "leak" the story? They've already given us the story. And the Dwarves worship the Dragon of Fire. Why should they change that "because some people don't like Fire Dragons". That's idiotic.
Old heroes- H1-H4"old heroes story was too chaotic"?
You actually hate something in this game?Jolly Joker wrote:Difficult to answer.
My personal opinion is, that the ANIMATIONS of the cutscenes are crap. I don't mean the REAL cutscenes where people actually move and such. I mean these strange wavering animations with lots of panning and spell effects and big gestures. All that stuff draws things out and is not really that great to look at. I would prefer unmoving backgrounds mith a little narrated text linking dialogues and so on if those real movie scenes are too expensive to do, which seems to be the case.
Clearly, for me this is hurting the actual story.
Wow!So everything that the original lacked?Thats good to know.Jolly Joker wrote: Seeing the story and only the story, I think that it has some rather cool dialogues. Very black humor, very dark. Very evil. The story in itself continues the main game story and does it very well, I think.
However, I believe that the way the story is told won't be changed.
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