Blood or Tears path?
Blood or Tears path?
I wonder which path you fallowed for each of five Griffins? And why?
IIRC there is no way to stay neutral because choosing your destiny is mandatory quest in second map of campaign.
I fallowed mainly Tears path for story reasons, so advanced classes abilities didn't have any influence on my choises.
1. Anastasya - Tears - because she is young, naive and undead don't want reveange.
2. Kiril - Tears. I don't know why,maybe because of Xana.
3. Sandor - Tears - I don't like slavers at all, so there was no other choise for me.
4. Irina - Blood - well, after being forced to marriage Gerhart it was logical choise for her.
5. Anton - didn't play him yet but probably Blood path. He seems to me be perfect blood hero - honour and faith above all others and no brain at all.
To be honest in case of Sandor and Kiril I would prefer to stay Neutral.
IIRC there is no way to stay neutral because choosing your destiny is mandatory quest in second map of campaign.
I fallowed mainly Tears path for story reasons, so advanced classes abilities didn't have any influence on my choises.
1. Anastasya - Tears - because she is young, naive and undead don't want reveange.
2. Kiril - Tears. I don't know why,maybe because of Xana.
3. Sandor - Tears - I don't like slavers at all, so there was no other choise for me.
4. Irina - Blood - well, after being forced to marriage Gerhart it was logical choise for her.
5. Anton - didn't play him yet but probably Blood path. He seems to me be perfect blood hero - honour and faith above all others and no brain at all.
To be honest in case of Sandor and Kiril I would prefer to stay Neutral.
In each case I decided based on what abilities I would get as I leveled it up. And I didn't use the default hero in any of the campaigns. Off the top of my head, I think I went blood once (stronghold) and tears all the other times.
That's out of doing necro and inferno campaigns twice and the others once.
That's out of doing necro and inferno campaigns twice and the others once.
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My play style has always been more suited to tears, plus the fact that I didn't have to worry about letting enemies flee (and thereby avoiding less-than-exciting battles) or accepting new troops via diplomacy, both of which give you tears points.
That said, I like the OP and the early responses, because it agrees with my intuition, which was to choose the path that I felt was most appropriate in a role-playing setting. I'm already looking forward to going back and playing "against type" but I do feel that this is a step (albeit a small one) towards more dynamic role playing that has always been latent in the campaign arcs.
That said, I like the OP and the early responses, because it agrees with my intuition, which was to choose the path that I felt was most appropriate in a role-playing setting. I'm already looking forward to going back and playing "against type" but I do feel that this is a step (albeit a small one) towards more dynamic role playing that has always been latent in the campaign arcs.
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Can't vote. Where is the "I'm an opportunist and will take whatever skills seem best at the time?" option?
So far have taken blood for Anastasya and Anton, tears for Irina; mostly because I want to be able to play the alternative ending in the final campaign, but I actually ended up liking both of the skills/spells the sanctuary magic hero gets by choosing tears (Serenity and Tsunami I think they're called).
Playing Inferno at the moment, and gravitating towards blood again. Haven't played stronghold yet.
So far have taken blood for Anastasya and Anton, tears for Irina; mostly because I want to be able to play the alternative ending in the final campaign, but I actually ended up liking both of the skills/spells the sanctuary magic hero gets by choosing tears (Serenity and Tsunami I think they're called).
Playing Inferno at the moment, and gravitating towards blood again. Haven't played stronghold yet.
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As you have 5 heroes you will end with choosing one of path anyway (ex. 3 blood and 2 tears heroes = blood path most the way). No matter if from story or skills reasons.Metathron wrote:Can't vote. Where is the "I'm an opportunist and will take whatever skills seem best at the time?" option?
I am curious if people choose these path because of story or only because of skills. Or they just don't care and are choosing path because they got enough blood/tears first.
For Irina Tears. For many others Blood. Depends strictly on what can be assumed as the best choice..
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Tears for every hero. It's not as bad in Heroes as it is in other games, but I generally can't play the 'evil' path without feeling like a complete d*ck. The only way to make that work is imagening your character is Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction. The 'good' route tends to be annoyingly butthurt about some stuff but is at least the more decent choice overall.
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Re: Blood or Tears path?
I just will say which path is more canonic:
1. Stronghold - Sandor - Tears are canon, Blood is plausible. Airini is a trainer in M&MX:Legacy. Blood path is plausible since Acamas don't have any reason to not join Sandor. He also appears in Duel of Champios but he was added because devs liked his artwork and design
2. Sanctuary - Irina - Tears are canon, Blood is impossible. Changbo is a trainer, vassal and ruler of Strandholm in M&MX:Legacy and was send directly by Irina for pilgrimage. In blood path Changbo is killed by Irina, so it contradicts with other games. Katashi's fate isn't mentioned in tears path but we can assume that she's alive
3. Haven - Anton - Tears and Blood are both equally plausible but Tears are cannon. Lord Kilburn travelled with Anton, it was mentioned in Legacy. Valeska's fate is unknown but she could also join to Anton. Problem with Valeska is that she was planned as undead - her Necropolis portrait exists, and there was an option to execute her in tutorial campaign (this option is unavailable, but you can see that they planned this option). I guess that Jezebeth was planned as Blood hero as Valeska's replacement in case of death but there's no proof for this. Imo Haven campaign is underdeveloped or just cut.
4. Necropolis - Anastasya - Mixed. I can assume that both Kaspar and Ludmila travelled with Anastasya. In Legacy Kaspar says that he travelled with her. In Shades of Darkness Ludmila was in close relations with Anastasya - says many personal things about Vein, Zakera and Anastasya
5. Inferno - Kiril - Both plausible, Tears canon. Tears are canon since it has objective to not destroy any cities on Agyn peninsula - Seahaven, Portmeyron, Sorpigal-by-the-sea. Xana and Sara are with Kiril in Shades of Darkness. Veyer a Blood hero is a Kiril sidekick in Shades of Darkness (along with Jezebeth)
6. Epilogue - Tears. Michael is killed, probably by Anton - Cate speaks to her son, so we can exclude Irina and Anastasya. Sandor wasn't her son and Kiril was absent during final cutscene, so it's most likely that Anton fought with Michael. Michael crusade never happened it's just alternative scenario.
7. Pirates of Savage Sea - Crag Hack - It doesn't matter both scenarios could happen in the same path.
8. Danse Macabre - Sandro - Blood is canon but both path could happen in the same time. Sandro kills Merikh on Blood path, it explains why he's turned into living armor in Heroes 7
-Shades of Darkness (Paths are complementary with each other)
9. Dungeon - Raelag - Tears are more likely since Sorshan is a narrator and secondary hero. Also Sorshan is the only one who remembers Raelag in Heroes 7. Yris was very close to Raelag but she's never mentioned again in later games
10. Necropolis 2 - Vein - Complementary paths and many contradictions. Practically Zakera and Ludmila are travelling with Vein. In tears path Zakera is a human and becomes a "weapon" to fight against Sandro. In Blood path Ludmila will be a right hand of Anastasya which makes sense in Heroes 7 but there's a problem - Zakera's age. In SoD Zakera is a young woman and we can turn her into undead on Blood path, but Zakera is a kid in Heroes 7. How could she live so long (over 100 years) and get younger without turning into Undead/Vampire? Maybe she was transformed later but it doesn't explain their change of age from young adult woman into a kid (check artwork-cutscene in Heroes 7 and compare it to her portrait).
1. Stronghold - Sandor - Tears are canon, Blood is plausible. Airini is a trainer in M&MX:Legacy. Blood path is plausible since Acamas don't have any reason to not join Sandor. He also appears in Duel of Champios but he was added because devs liked his artwork and design
2. Sanctuary - Irina - Tears are canon, Blood is impossible. Changbo is a trainer, vassal and ruler of Strandholm in M&MX:Legacy and was send directly by Irina for pilgrimage. In blood path Changbo is killed by Irina, so it contradicts with other games. Katashi's fate isn't mentioned in tears path but we can assume that she's alive
3. Haven - Anton - Tears and Blood are both equally plausible but Tears are cannon. Lord Kilburn travelled with Anton, it was mentioned in Legacy. Valeska's fate is unknown but she could also join to Anton. Problem with Valeska is that she was planned as undead - her Necropolis portrait exists, and there was an option to execute her in tutorial campaign (this option is unavailable, but you can see that they planned this option). I guess that Jezebeth was planned as Blood hero as Valeska's replacement in case of death but there's no proof for this. Imo Haven campaign is underdeveloped or just cut.
4. Necropolis - Anastasya - Mixed. I can assume that both Kaspar and Ludmila travelled with Anastasya. In Legacy Kaspar says that he travelled with her. In Shades of Darkness Ludmila was in close relations with Anastasya - says many personal things about Vein, Zakera and Anastasya
5. Inferno - Kiril - Both plausible, Tears canon. Tears are canon since it has objective to not destroy any cities on Agyn peninsula - Seahaven, Portmeyron, Sorpigal-by-the-sea. Xana and Sara are with Kiril in Shades of Darkness. Veyer a Blood hero is a Kiril sidekick in Shades of Darkness (along with Jezebeth)
6. Epilogue - Tears. Michael is killed, probably by Anton - Cate speaks to her son, so we can exclude Irina and Anastasya. Sandor wasn't her son and Kiril was absent during final cutscene, so it's most likely that Anton fought with Michael. Michael crusade never happened it's just alternative scenario.
7. Pirates of Savage Sea - Crag Hack - It doesn't matter both scenarios could happen in the same path.
8. Danse Macabre - Sandro - Blood is canon but both path could happen in the same time. Sandro kills Merikh on Blood path, it explains why he's turned into living armor in Heroes 7
-Shades of Darkness (Paths are complementary with each other)
9. Dungeon - Raelag - Tears are more likely since Sorshan is a narrator and secondary hero. Also Sorshan is the only one who remembers Raelag in Heroes 7. Yris was very close to Raelag but she's never mentioned again in later games
10. Necropolis 2 - Vein - Complementary paths and many contradictions. Practically Zakera and Ludmila are travelling with Vein. In tears path Zakera is a human and becomes a "weapon" to fight against Sandro. In Blood path Ludmila will be a right hand of Anastasya which makes sense in Heroes 7 but there's a problem - Zakera's age. In SoD Zakera is a young woman and we can turn her into undead on Blood path, but Zakera is a kid in Heroes 7. How could she live so long (over 100 years) and get younger without turning into Undead/Vampire? Maybe she was transformed later but it doesn't explain their change of age from young adult woman into a kid (check artwork-cutscene in Heroes 7 and compare it to her portrait).
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