Did you want more peasant-looking creatures ?Zenofex wrote:The art direction remains somewhat childish with these ridiculous weapons and armors - especially regarding the Haven troops, where even the most basic infantry is equipped with ornameted plate mails and sophisticated looking offensive armament. At least for the time being however, the concept art and the actual units look better compared to what we have in HoMM V.
Seriously! 
No, something even lower than peasants. I want the creatures to look like the very bottom of the society, the lumpenproletariat at its disgusting worst. Seriously!Nelgirith wrote:Did you want more peasant-looking creatures ?
It makes sense that they have good looking and shiny units.The Haven nobles are excited when they hear that a Demon invasion has been prophesized. This is the chance for them to demonstrate their superiority to all other factions for the first time in history, by brilliantly and courageously shining in the exciting battles about to come. Their empire is ready to take place as the legitimate defenders of Ashan.
Which is most likely why the Haven is the dullest faction through all the HoMM. Too normal, too basic, they had nothing special except the Angels.Zenofex wrote:I want the creatures to make some sense. That's achievable and we've had it before. In HoMM I - IV the lower tier human infantry looks like lower tier infantry - little to no armor, basic but effective for their purpose weapons and nothing shiny on them.
Its conscription. Its hard to imagine all out war without it, country dont have money to train into professional swordsman, although homm5 offers that option or at least some 20 per week.The Haven units fit in the theme of Fighters of the Light God and Protectors of Ashan. I doubt Angels would ally themselves with crappy units like peasants (as in H5)
I agree. Totally. But since these two are probably elite units, there's nothing wrong with fancy armor.Zenofex wrote:No, something even lower than peasants. I want the creatures to look like the very bottom of the society, the lumpenproletariat at its disgusting worst. Seriously!Nelgirith wrote:Did you want more peasant-looking creatures ?
... or serious. I want the creatures to make some sense. That's achievable and we've had it before. In HoMM I - IV the lower tier human infantry looks like lower tier infantry - little to no armor, basic but effective for their purpose weapons and nothing shiny on them. If you train these fellas in thousands and give every single one of them a full plate mail and a ceremonial weapon, the debt collectors will crush you much before the demons/undead/everybody else arrive.
And yes, a reasonably looking lower tier creature still could be drawn beautifully. That's just not the aim of whoever's drawing the units.
Why would i say the're not new when you clearly state that they are simply clearer pics?!King Imp wrote:Some clearer pics of two Necro units.
Countdown to TT showing up and saying these are not new and he hates them begins... NOW.
I think the main reason why they where OP in H4 was because of the instant retal thing, as they would resurrect themselves by 50% of the full stack dmg... they weren't really better then their previous incarnations otherwisse.Metathron wrote:Also, I wish they would make them more powerful again, like in H4.
No, it doesn't make sense for them to have ALL of their units shiny and well equipped. Do you have any idea how expensive plate mail is?Nelgirith wrote:The Haven units fit in the theme of Fighters of the Light God and Protectors of Ashan. I doubt Angels would ally themselves with crappy units like peasants (as in H5)
Which is most likely why the Haven is the dullest faction through all the HoMM. Too normal, too basic, they had nothing special except the Angels.Zenofex wrote:I want the creatures to make some sense. That's achievable and we've had it before. In HoMM I - IV the lower tier human infantry looks like lower tier infantry - little to no armor, basic but effective for their purpose weapons and nothing shiny on them.
So far, the H6 Haven reminds me a lot of those Warhammer Empire or Bretonnian armies - which is far more interesting than the crap Haven we've had since Heroes 1 with its super peasants. I want to see more units like the H1/H2 Paladin and less like the ridiculous peasants.
Neither can you claim it's a cool faction thenSoronarr wrote:Well, if that is so, then you cannot claim it's "dullness" as a state of fact, now can you?
In a land where magic is commonplace i doubt that it would be as expensive as in RL.Soronarr wrote:<<No, it doesn't make sense for them to have ALL of their units shiny and well equipped. Do you have any idea how expensive plate mail is?>>
Lol, that looks so ridiculous that it's just plain cool.ThunderTitan wrote:Now see, these are proppa vampires: http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/img/media ... ary_04.jpg They're so cool they even have shades.
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