The foreign language thread

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

Er for svimmel til at bevæge mig. Hihi. Tar snart på McDonald's og køber alt, hvad min mave ku tænke sig, for har indtil videre kun spist popcorn og drukket te idag - og det mætter ikke meget

[Kalah]

Fikk noen timers søvn, men måtte stå opp igjen klokka 9. Det er lyst her oppe...

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

Skal jeg varme suppen, jeg lavede tidligere op, eller skal jeg ikke? Hvor sulten er jeg på en skala fra et til ti? Hmm

[Kalah]

En fin avveining må gjøres; blir umaken man må gjøre seg for å lage suppe veid opp av komforten man får ved å spise?

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

Gjorde det og ja bestemt! Den var desuden stadig varm og dejlig, så varmede den ikke så meget op :9 Mmmm...

[Kalah]

Jo, slik er det nok. Om morgenen vil man kanskje ligge lenge i den varme og gode sengen, men så må man også tisse... Da venter man til ubehaget ved å holde seg blir større enn ubehaget ved å stå opp.

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

Haha...er det et problem du tumler meget med?

[Ethric]

Late slabbedask, klipp håret og få deg en jobb.

[Milla aka. the Slayer]

Mig?
Jeg elsker mit hår

[Ethric]

Neeeeei, mente han over deg, så klart Siden han kan ligge å dra seg så mye, og jeg plager ham fordi han ennå er student

Og det med "klipp håret og få deg en jobb" er vel noe man ikke kan si med samme effekt til jenter

[Kalah]

[Ethric]

Javel ja, man tenker koffert? Skamme seg.


Oooog god natt, må tidlig opp til min behagelige og godt betalte jobb.

[Kalah]

Civil Servant.

[Ethric]

= kan ikke miste jobben med mindre jeg gjør fra meg på skrivebordet til sjefen eller noe sånt.

[Kalah]

... og du blir forfremmet "når det er din tur"

[darknessfood]

Blegh, stelletje snotneuzen dat hier allemaal in hun moerstaal aan het praten zijn. BELACHELIJK GEWOON!!!

[Zamolxis]

Vind je? OK, een beetje grappig, maar niet belachelijk. Persoonlijk vind ik het bijvoorbeeld interresant om die andere germaanse talen proberen te begrijpen (met mijn beperkte kennis van NL).

EDIT: haha... kijk effe' naar mijn ranking :-))

[darknessfood]

Ja, maar toch moeilijk te snappen hoor . Zitten er nog meer nederlanders, de enige nederlander die ik hier ken dat ben jij. Waar woon je?

[Panda Tar]

Again the first lesson. Do you remember what does that mean?

- Olá, tudo bem?
- Oi, estou bem, e você?
- Ótimo. Meu nome é Sullivan, e o seu?
- Sou Daniel. Prazer em conhecê-lo!
- Igualmente.

Vocabulary:

Greetings:
Olá, Oi, Alô (this one you use when you answer the phone, more than a greeting, so avoid saying this as a greeting. It sounds rather odd, although comprehensible). Oi is mainly used as a word for greeting, but you can use that as you use in British English, as a warning or yelling for attention. Olá is mainly used for greeting, and also used to ask if someone is in a place and you don't know for sure, like you'd say "Hellooo?", so "Oláá?".

A fair translation follows:
Olá - Hello
Oi - Hi
Alô - Hello

Questions:
Questions like: Tudo bem?; Como vai?; Como tem estado?; Como tem passado?; Como tem andado?; Tudo beleza?; Tudo ok (we pronounce it like in English of course, but, fyi, if we'd write OK as we read in Portuguese, it'd look like this: okêi)?; Como anda? Tudo nos trinques (this one is not really used, because it's somewhat informal and people seem to
have forgotten that. I use it sometimes, when I'm bored of using "Tudo beleza" all the time; E aí? - all these questions have the same meaning, they're asking about one's health, living, day, or else.

A fair translation follows (you'll notice that we actually don't ask if IS EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT, but we almost affirm that EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT, suppressing even the verb):
Tudo bem? - Is everything all right?
Como vai? - How do you do?
Como tem estado? - How have you been?
Como tem passado? - How have you been?
Como tem andado? - How have you been?
Tudo beleza? - You all right? or Is everything all right? (although the exact translation for beleza is BEAUTY), but beleza is being used as a way to ask for one's health and also to answer questions like that or that you accept something that had been asked for you, like this: "Can you do that for me, please?" "Pode fazer isso para mim, por favor?", so you answer: Ok, All right, sure, yes, yeah - Ok, tudo bem, é claro, sim, certo, beleza, a'ham.
Tudo ok? - Is everything ok?
E aí? - What's up? (although the exact translation for aí is THERE, for position).

Pronoums and verbs:
We have some pronouns there, some of them are suppressed, because, like in Spanish, we have verb conjugations that allow us not to have to say pronouns, because each person has its own verb (which makes Portuguese rather difficult to learn, since we have all those pronunciation matters you'll read below).

Eu - I (1st person)
Tu - Thou (tu is seen as something formal for all regions of this country. It's only common saying tu if you're at South and some states of Northeast, but at South, people won't conjugate the verb correctly. They mingle Tu with the verb conjugation used for Você. 2nd person).
Você - You (the most common word - 2nd person)
Meu - My, Mine (possessive, for 1st person and for male-gender sujects. Name is a male-gender word in Portuguese. Mão (hand), is female-gender, so you'd use MINHA, instead or MEU). Meu is used in any part of a sentence. You won't see "That's my" all alone, but "That's mine". There's no such thing in Portuguese. You say "É meu", "Meu nome"...)
Seu - Yours, his, hers, Your, his, her, its (used for 2nd person Você and 3rd person Ele, Ela (male and female), that's like MEU, also used only for male-gender words. SUA is used for female-gender ones.
-lo - you (that's a particle related to the pronoun you. In Portuguese, to avoid using a word repeatedly, we suppress pronouns in many ways. Using the Pronomes Relativos (Related Pronouns), we avoid that repetition. It's not wrong saying the word twice or so, but it's ugly and sounds unpolite, stupid, you see).

General vocabulary:

Ótimo: Great (used for both feeling or agreement).
Nome: name
Prazer: pleasure
Conhecer: to know/meet (there's not a real translation for TO MEET for Portuguese, so the word is CONHECER, although conhecer can be used for the same use as we have for TO KNOW. You use that to say that you "know a place", "know someone", "know a subject", "know how to do something". But the right translation for TO KNOW, is SABER. But you won't say that for people or places, but you'll say that you "know how to do something", "know a suject", "know about something" - see the difference between CONHECER and SABER?)
Igualmente: Likewise (it's a polite manner to reply something someone said to you. You can also use: O mesmo, Também para você).

These are the ones we have in the lesson.

Just for you information, this is a table regarding Portuguese language pronunciation, comparing Portugal and some Brazilian variations - oh, they're somewhat like British and USAian differences in speech. There, they're represented by: São Paulo (Southeast), Paraná (South), Rio de Janeiro (Southeast) and Bahia (Northeast). Of course, as I'm a person who lived at Central-west and at North, I know other differences in pronunciation all over the country, but they are somewhat alike. Some of them, you'd identify the city/state imediately, as we seen in Rio de Janeiro or Rio Grande do Sul. Amazonas is a bit similar to Rio de Janeiro, for instance, but you really know that a guy is from there is he is always talking with a SH sound whenever he says words like "mesmo", "pois". The right spelling is not like that, but they talk that way all the same. Link for the table here:

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pron%C3%BA ... brasileiro

You see it'll be missing consonants like X. Because in Brazilian, differently from Croatian (or so the text says), has not a single letter for a single sound, but many sounds for some letters. X has 5 different sounds. You also see that the vowel A (Á, À, Ã, Â, AN, AM) has different spellings, but can also have different ways to spell within the country, so there's a wide range of sounds there. In comparison to the table, I speak similar to someone in São Paulo, but not too fast. I speak a bit like someone from the South. In fact, my Portuguese is almost the "right" Portuguese when it comes to spelling. I just don't bother pronuncing words like "dependo" with DO, but DU (sounds like DOO in English). Something I speak not accordingly to the right spelling, are TE, TI, DE, DI. Most of the times, not always, and mainly at the end of the words, Brazilians pronunce those like the English CH and J, like CHE, CHI, JE, JI, like in CHamber. That's not the right way, but you won't see people talking the right spelling that much. Only here, at South and some states at Northeast.

Now, I have some stuff to do here, but I'll be back with the damn links. They are a bit hard to find, but not impossible.

[Kalah]

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