Good Bye Nival?

MistWeaver · Unread postby **MistWeaver** » 30 Jan 2009, 22:00

Bandobras Took wrote: >>Why? They've never had one before.

Acceptable? They did. I did. HoMM2 was always playable in singleplayer, and it still rocks.

Darmani · Unread postby **Darmani** » 30 Jan 2009, 23:00

The HoMM II AI is extremely naive and predictable, and yet somehow it manages to never do extremely retarded things like keeping its strong walkers in place when there's an enemy strong walker in range., or not flagging its mines.

Asheera · Unread postby **Asheera** » 30 Jan 2009, 23:04

Maybe because the game is less complex?

(don't shoot me, never played H2, don't know if it's complex or not, but I was just guessing that since it's older)

Lepastur · Unread postby **Lepastur** » 31 Jan 2009, 00:07

As far as I can remember, Heroes II IA wasn't genius, but it was able to make some challenge to human players on some scenarios and get fun in them. Furthermore, the single player mode wasn't ruined because of it as the Heroes V is, maybe also because the Editor Map was complete and allows you to make some things easily.

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 31 Jan 2009, 01:50

Asheera wrote:don't shoot me, never played H2

No shooting, we promise.

Burn 'er!

Edwardas 3 · Unread postby **Edwardas 3** » 31 Jan 2009, 11:13

Don't know why but Northern American designers created the games I like most : Might Magic Universe ,Wizardry 8 and Jagged Alliance 2,yeah those two are Canadian.Maybe that crispy humor or cool designer style ?

But what is today don't they have good designers left in New World?

Ethric · Unread postby **Ethric** » 31 Jan 2009, 11:34

A rumour on the internet? Well that settles it then

A new developer for a new game could be interesting (it'll never be NWC, so it doesn't really matter who it is), but i suspect a new publisher could be a real boon. Except if it's an even worse one... 3DO v2: Trip Is Back

Angelspit wrote:
HodgePodge wrote:If 3DO would have been patient & waited for H4 to be completed, they may not have gone bankrupt.
I don't it was as simple as that.

Yeah, 3DO would probably have gone under no matter what.

Edwardas 3 · Unread postby **Edwardas 3** » 31 Jan 2009, 14:16

The piracy was much higher - main reason

Bandobras Took · Unread postby **Bandobras Took** » 31 Jan 2009, 14:40

MistWeaver wrote:
>>Acceptable? They did. I did. HoMM2 was always playable in singleplayer, and it still rocks.

Not to derail the thread, but I can't accept that when I've watched AI heroes in Heroes 2 spend over a week simply boarding and exiting a ship in the exact same place.

Darmani wrote:
>>The HoMM II AI is extremely naive and predictable, and yet somehow it manages to never do extremely retarded things like keeping its strong walkers in place when there's an enemy strong walker in range., or not flagging its mines.

However, it does manage to do retarded things like ignoring walkers in favor of shooters.

Overall, I'd say H3 had the most acceptable AI, since they were essentially able to refine the Heroes 2 AI.

Sir Charles · Unread postby **Sir Charles** » 31 Jan 2009, 18:19

While I was overall very happy with the AI's in both H2 and H3, the one in H1 was by far the best IMO. Yes, it was simpler and therefore easier to program, but it was still the most efficient and difficult to beat. Seriously, when was the last time any of you went back and played an expert & Ingenious King of the Hill game for H1? You may be pleasantly surprised at the actual difficulty.

And just to clarify, my source wasn't Fabrice...but rather 2 Nival insiders (disgruntled ex-nivalers I'm guessing). Reliable enough to make me believe it at least. Take that for what it's worth.

Ethric · Unread postby **Ethric** » 01 Feb 2009, 01:34

Time will show, I guess

Edwardas 3 wrote:The piracy was much higher - main reason

What?

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 01 Feb 2009, 02:03

Back in the 18th century, piracy was much higher.

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 01 Feb 2009, 07:18

Yes, and the world was a better place for it:

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 01 Feb 2009, 14:44

Somalia is therefore the greenest country in the world...

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 01 Feb 2009, 14:46

We're talking about the 18th century. You gotta pay attention...

Edwardas 3 · Unread postby **Edwardas 3** » 01 Feb 2009, 17:11

Piracy soxs-they destroyed many genius designers.

Damn them
Edited on Sun, Feb 01 2009, 12:15 by Edwardas 3

HodgePodge · Unread postby **HodgePodge** » 01 Feb 2009, 22:16

Metathron wrote:Back in the 18th century, piracy was much higher.

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Grumpy Old Wizard · Unread postby **Grumpy Old Wizard** » 01 Feb 2009, 23:50

Too bad Nival got axed. Now another company has to start learing from square one. I wonder if Nival is still going to do another patch as promised.

Asheera · Unread postby **Asheera** » 01 Feb 2009, 23:52

Let's hope so. Those Arcane Archers need a serious nerf.

ywhtptgtfo · Unread postby **ywhtptgtfo** » 02 Feb 2009, 09:03

Can anyone link me with the official confirmation? The one provided is not pointing to the right place.

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