Silly names in HoMMV! ...and alternatives to them!

[DaemianLucifer]

As soon as the game nazi Kalah gives the green light,the game can begin!So,whats the word,oh great summoner?

[DaemianLucifer]

Oh,how could we forget to put the horny...I mean horned demon in here?

[Wildbear]

So you are the upgrade for a Domestic Bear then? Or is a Domestic Bear an upgrade for you?

To Mods: how about a smiley?

He told you to merge your posts

Are wild bears upgraded from domestic bears? The second comes after, your question lacks logic


Back to the names, cavalier in french is not knight, chevalier is knight. Cavalier is for all horse riders. And a knight is not a champion.
That's a mess, they should change it back to something easier to understand:
Cavalier -upg- Champion
remove angels
Crusader -upg- Paladin

Voilà

[lordskeleton]

Maybe cavalier -> Wildbear =P

[Wildbear]

No, you're missing some steps: Cavalier -upg- Champion -upg- Paladin -upg- Hero -upg- Wildbear

[DaemianLucifer]

When the hero drinks a lot of mead he becomes

(fanfare blowing)

Wildbear

Always ready to eat a honey!

[Wildbear]

Guys, I understand it's more interesting to talk about me than about the game but this is a bit off-topic, isn't it?

[Corribus]

Wildbear just be thankful they're talking about you as an upgrade to a cavalier instead of a downgrade to a leprechaun.

Corribus

[Wildbear]

I am, peasant Corribus, but it is still off-topic.

Anyway there isn't much more room for silly name conversations in H5. It looks like the few ones that were really ridiculous are being corrected, and hero names aren't officialy known, so this topic resurrection was maybe irrelevant or not relevant yet.

[DaemianLucifer]

Well,as far as I know,we still have plague zombie,and the Inquisitor.Now why didnt they use the original name priest -> cleric,I wonder.It sounds much better,even though its not the best they could think of.

[Wildbear]

I won't comment on the inquisitor name because I did propose it to nwc a few years ago. The one I described back then actually had some inquisition powers (to sum up, stronger against creatures with boosting/blessing spell cast on them and against 'unholy' spell casters) so it isn't the same unit.

The name itself isn't stupid, but it has little to do with the creature's abilities.

I completely forgot about that plague zombie. The problem is that here it describes the unit correctly.

[ThunderTitan]

He told you to merge your posts

No he told me to edit instead of posting a new one. But as i wanted to quote another post... (Ok i'm lazy and hate having to copy/paste quote tags )

Are wild bears upgraded from domestic bears? The second comes after, your question lacks logic

Well wild bear would be more agressive = better stats.

Back to the names, cavalier in french is not knight, chevalier is knight. Cavalier is for all horse riders. And a knight is not a champion.
That's a mess, they should change it back to something easier to understand:
Cavalier -upg- Champion
remove angels
Crusader -upg- Paladin

Voilà

A knight not a champion? Read Ivanhoe!

Weren't knights knights because they were the only ones that could aford war horses? Whatever... Champion sounds better anyway.

It also fits better with Paladin coz Champions usualy defend a cause.

[Wildbear]

The champion is someone who represents a group or a person. For example Goliath was the champion of the Philistines. In the middle ages, the stereotypic champion is the one jousting in an arena, he is not a champion because he is on a horse, but because he represents someone in a duel or competition.

So "knight" isn't the same as "champion".

[DaemianLucifer]

A knight was originaly a person of noble heritage,not necessarally mounted,that had a lot of money to buy himself better equipment and his own guard(usually consisting of his own servants - serfs).Later,it became a title.

A champion represents an excelent fighter,and an extremly bald one,that did some great thing for his country/order/town/etc.

[Friend_of_Gunnar]

I have the idea to do the opposite of the post. You take a good name and make it into a foolish one. For example:

Succubus will become "Flame Girls"

Inquisitors will become "Holy Curmudgeons"

Vampires will become "Screaming Anemics"

War Dancer will become "Michael Flatleys"

heh, this is more fun I think...

[Kareeah Indaga]

A champion represents an excelent fighter,and an extremly bald one,that did some great thing for his country/order/town/etc.

Why bald?

On the priest > cleric idea, personally I'd switch them around. I s'pose they could do priest > bishop/cardinal/zealot/any other high religious rank also...

[theLuckyDragon]

I think he meant bold.

[ThunderTitan]

The champion is someone who represents a group or a person. For example Goliath was the champion of the Philistines. In the middle ages, the stereotypic champion is the one jousting in an arena, he is not a champion because he is on a horse, but because he represents someone in a duel or competition.

So "knight" isn't the same as "champion".

Exactly! But a Knight can be a Champion. Just like he can be a Paladin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin

And when did i ever said Champion was the same as knight. My main complaint about Cavalier was that it meant Knight.
It might mean cavalty in France but as it's in English i'm pretty sure it's a misspeling of Chevalier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavaliers

I really doubt royalists would name themselves after cavalry.

A knight was originaly a person of noble heritage,not necessarally mounted,that had a lot of money to buy himself better equipment and his own guard(usually consisting of his own servants - serfs).Later,it became a title.

Yeah but most of the time they were the ones that had horses. And if i'm not mistaking having horses was nobility only in the Middle Ages as cavalry was considered better and nobler than infantry.

[DaemianLucifer]

I think he meant bold.

Whops!Yes,thats what I meant.Ok,no more posting when Im sleepy for me

[DaemianLucifer]

Yeah but most of the time they were the ones that had horses. And if i'm not mistaking having horses was nobility only in the Middle Ages as cavalry was considered better and nobler than infantry.

Thats right.It was in middle ages that cavalry was a standard in warfare.Before,knights would fight on foot,even when they used horses to get to the battlefield.