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Unread postby Jimmpi » 06 Jun 2006, 20:08

Wolfshanze wrote: There's such a thing as nerfing them too much... now a stack of imps or pixies is almost as powerful as a dragon. Something just not right with that thought.
I agree to 100%..a pack of lvl 1 or 2 should not be as powerful ass a lvl 7(dragon)...

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 20:09

Perhaps they will fix that maybe?!

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 06 Jun 2006, 20:13

I really hope so but I'm scared that ubi dont do it :(

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 20:18

We'll see

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 06 Jun 2006, 20:26

To be perfectly honest, I don't see Ubi rebalancing the creatures, especially making level 7's bigger/stronger or whatever. They already announced that the first patch would address "balancing issues" and they didn't change a single creature, so I think hopes they'll do so in the future are thin.

I already put out a patch to make Devils faster, but other then that, I did nothing else for any level-7s.

Realize it's easy for end-users to change the stats though... if they wanted to make all level-7s the masters of the field (as they were in H3 or H4), then a simple stat change would be easy enough to do... probably they just really need a beef-up on HPs... all the level-7 HPs got nerfed bad in HPs... Black Dragons used to have like 400-hps in H3, and now have 240-hps. One could easily make a "level-7 mod" and bump the HPs on all the level-7 creatures to make them tougher again.

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 06 Jun 2006, 20:26

They should fix the speed of all the level 7s(except the titans).Its so anoying to have cerberi outrun an angel or a dragon.
Wolfshanze wrote:Realize it's easy for end-users to change the stats though... if they wanted to make all level-7s the masters of the field (as they were in H3 or H4), then a simple stat change would be easy enough to do... probably they just really need a beef-up on HPs... all the level-7 HPs got nerfed bad in HPs... Black Dragons used to have like 400-hps in H3, and now have 240-hps. One could easily make a "level-7 mod" and bump the HPs on all the level-7 creatures to make them tougher again.
It was HIV.In HIII they had 300,along with angels and titans.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 06 Jun 2006, 20:31

I knew the HPs got nerfed... couldn't remember how much though.

As for "they should fix"... you really need to change that to "you or I should fix"... because I just don't see Ubi changing any creature stats... not after they announced v1.1 would fix "balancing" issues and not a single creature was changed.

Bottom line, looks like if you want Level-7s beefed up in speed and/or HPs, you'll need to do it yourself or hope another fan does it for you, becuase I don't see Ubi doing it.

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 20:35

Ok.I agree we should fix some mistakes,but I'll fix it on my computer and when I play on internet my devils will be better then the oders.Or not???

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 06 Jun 2006, 20:37

I wounder why ubi has lowered the lvl 7 creature so much :S
And I also dont think ubi is going to mod any creature,,but I can always dream cant I..:)

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 06 Jun 2006, 20:38

Paffka wrote:Ok.I agree we should fix some mistakes,but I'll fix it on my computer and when I play on internet my devils will be better then the oders.Or not???
I think that both players will need to have same mods installed in order to play MP.

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 20:42

These with the mods is very stuppid,because they are to much mods,wich are very good and it is good to have them.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 06 Jun 2006, 20:47

Paffka wrote:These with the mods is very stuppid,because they are to much mods,wich are very good and it is good to have them.
You want to rephrase that? I have no idea what you're trying to say (no offense, just don't understand your statement).

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 20:48

It is too stupid,that everybody needs to install all mods to play together.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 06 Jun 2006, 20:56

Actually no... if two people want to play together they either need to have no mods or the same mods... they don't need "all mods" to play together.

You do realize most mods are designed for SOLO PLAY anyways?!?!?

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Unread postby Paffka » 06 Jun 2006, 21:03

I'm sorry I forgot that the modes are for solo and for multiplayer.

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Unread postby Qurqirish Dragon » 07 Jun 2006, 12:54

DaemianLucifer wrote:They should fix the speed of all the level 7s(except the titans).Its so anoying to have cerberi outrun an angel or a dragon.
Wolfshanze wrote:Realize it's easy for end-users to change the stats though... if they wanted to make all level-7s the masters of the field (as they were in H3 or H4), then a simple stat change would be easy enough to do... probably they just really need a beef-up on HPs... all the level-7 HPs got nerfed bad in HPs... Black Dragons used to have like 400-hps in H3, and now have 240-hps. One could easily make a "level-7 mod" and bump the HPs on all the level-7 creatures to make them tougher again.
It was HIV.In HIII they had 300,along with angels and titans.
Only titans. Archangels in H3 had 250 HP (although since they had the best defense and damage of all aligned units, that was more than enough)

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Unread postby Gus » 07 Jun 2006, 14:13

Wolfshanze wrote:You do realize most mods are designed for SOLO PLAY anyways?!?!?
What do you mean by that (and by the number of question/exclamation marks)?

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Unread postby Dublex » 07 Jun 2006, 16:12

Its not recommended that you try to play the mods online, as they are designed for solo play and could cause Bad Stuff(TM) to happen.

They should be OK for LAN games though if everyone agrees on the changes to the rules.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 07 Jun 2006, 17:49

Dublex wrote:Its not recommended that you try to play the mods online, as they are designed for solo play and could cause Bad Stuff(TM) to happen.

They should be OK for LAN games though if everyone agrees on the changes to the rules.
What he said.


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