Maybe because they don't.If the Kreegans need a Volcano for something like geothermal energy, then why does Colony Zod not have loads of volcanoes around it?
Good Lord, you're posting this picture for like a million time!Slayer of Cliffracers wrote:
That all works fine in your imagination. Other people here obviously disagree, and strongly. Why must you continue to repeat your arguments millions of times if they are not convinced by them?Slayer wrote:Because the whole universe was hardly written by one person, it is necessary sometimes to invent extra stuff in order to bring all references into harmony.
It is very unlikely. The native population of Eeofol before the Kreegans' invasion were the Halfings and the landscape was similar to Erathia's - neither of these have anything to do with the massive, burnt and intimidating structures of the Inferno towns. Of course this does not mean that there are things like "Gate Kreegans".Interesting thing about the architecture being Eeofol's.
Secret_Holder wrote:
Maybe because they don't.
So... they're volcanoes are they? Proof?
No humans in Eofol? Here are some human Inferno heroes, also called Heretics:
Fiona
Pyre
Ayden
Olema
Xarfax
If I keep on posting it perhaps it's because I don't get the impression people are actually taking into account what is actually said.XEL II wrote: Good Lord, you're posting this picture for like a million time!
I will repeat my arguments until such a time as I am satisfied that people have actually read what I am writing and thought of a response that requires me to change my arguments.XEL II wrote: That all works fine in your imagination. Other people here obviously disagree, and strongly. Why must you continue to repeat your arguments millions of times if they are not convinced by them?
Why would the Might and Magic Kreegans (Hive-Kreegans) bother to expend resources to create volcanoes that would destroy all the resources that are already present in an area? They can't eat lava can they?Zenofex wrote: It is very unlikely. The native population of Eeofol before the Kreegans' invasion were the Halfings and the landscape was similar to Erathia's - neither of these have anything to do with the massive, burnt and intimidating structures of the Inferno towns. Of course this does not mean that there are things like "Gate Kreegans".
If you actually read the piece of text you keep posting, you'll see it says "Our UNDERLINGS have done well..." The underlings of Eeofol, i.e. not necessarily the Kreegans themselves. Even if the Kreegans were responsible for summoning the volcano - so what? They conjured it up to appease their Efreeti and Gog allies from the Plane of Fire. Doesn't require or prove a whole boatload of wild theories about portals and biological origins. Note that there were no Efreeti or Gogs supporting the Kreegans at Colony Zod or Sweetwater, and hence no volcanoes were really required.Slayer of Cliffracers wrote:If I keep on posting it perhaps it's because I don't get the impression people are actually taking into account what is actually said.
The Kreegans create volcanoes. They don't just areas that happen to be volcanic, they actually MAKE them. If these are are biological creatures with biological motives would they actually go through what must be an extreme expenditure of time AND resources in order to ruin a particular area of land. The answer is of course that they need an Inferno, but if a Volcano is "just" an outpost, then why the volcanoes?
When you're trying to make sense of a fictional universe it's always a good idea to construe or take for granted that there are no contradictions in the story. Even if that weren't so, there is no problem - or if there is one, you're having a hard time making clear what exactly it is. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make any more. It's still that made-up Gating Kreegans idea, isn't it? This text about summoning a volcano isn't about to support it.Slayer of Cliffracers wrote:The people here that you are describing would rather declare that Might and Magic is DA BEST (not including Might and Magic IX) and just pretend there is no problem at all in need of an imaginative solution.
Your whole argumentation is built around some message from the begining of the "Dungeons and Devils" sub-campaign. Now let's apply your own reasoning to it without arbitrarily dissociating pieces of information:Why would the Might and Magic Kreegans (Hive-Kreegans) bother to expend resources to create volcanoes that would destroy all the resources that are already present in an area? They can't eat lava can they?
Have you played the Armageddon's Blade campaign? If you have, you should've noticed that there is next to no explanation of the actual purpose of Armageddon's Blade creation and that the story is being told mainly from Gelu's, Catherine's and Roland's point of view. Inferno's bit is presented by Xeron, who happens to be half-Kreegan. Lucifer Kreegan isn't given many opportunities to explain his actions - actually he almost doesn't speak of them. We know that Armageddon's Blade should "set the world on fire", but absolutely nothing else. From here the speculation can begin and as I said previously - the explanation that the Kreegans, after suffering two serious losses, wanted to get rid of the planet's natives quickly and efficiently is as good as any other. You are speculating, but without taking into account the actual lore of the M&M universe, i.e. you are creating a fan-fiction. Many people told you that already because it's a fact.Add in the bit about Armageddon's Blade and setting the "world on fire" and you can get the picture that the Inferno-dwelling Kreegans are clearly not the same creatures as the Kreegans that originally arrived from space
Heroes III wrote:"Deep beneath the earth, you find a vault of the Ancients from before the Silence. Inside, you find a sealed casket, deeply etched with dire warnings. Ignoring them, you break the seal. Inside, you find Armageddon's Blade."
Either made in the Heavenly Forges of Governor Padish a few years AS (most sublime things) or made by the Ancients themselves (even earlier, most gold-nano things), so yes, that's true.Zenofex wrote:If I recall correctly, some of the otherwise "medieval"-looking artefact-class equipment in M&M had something like "property of VARN armoury" sign on it.
You didnøt really do what I think you did?Slayer of Cliffracers wrote:
This is an Inferno on a non-volcanic terrain background yet it has volcanoes around it. Yes they are volcanoes.
Corlagon wrote: If you actually read the piece of text you keep posting, you'll see it says "Our UNDERLINGS have done well..." The underlings of Eeofol, i.e. not necessarily the Kreegans themselves. Even if the Kreegans were responsible for summoning the volcano - so what? They conjured it up to appease their Efreeti and Gog allies from the Plane of Fire. Doesn't require or prove a whole boatload of wild theories about portals and biological origins. Note that there were no Efreeti or Gogs supporting the Kreegans at Colony Zod or Sweetwater, and hence no volcanoes were really required.
Finally a response with content that requires thought to reply to.If there were no contradictions in the story then I would not be writing here trying to resolve them.Corlagon wrote: When you're trying to make sense of a fictional universe it's always a good idea to construe or take for granted that there are no contradictions in the story. Even if that weren't so, there is no problem - or if there is one, you're having a hard time making clear what exactly it is. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make any more. It's still that made-up Gating Kreegans idea, isn't it? This text about summoning a volcano isn't about to support it.
No it isn't. My whole argumentation is built around Heroes IV Death Campaign and Might and Magic IX. The stuff about the Fiery Realm being the ultimate result of the Kreegans domination. Whether the Kreegans wish it or not, turning the world into a fiery wasteland is the ultimate result of Kreegan domination because that's what the Fiery Realm *IS*.Xenofex wrote: Your whole argumentation is built around some message from the begining of the "Dungeons and Devils" sub-campaign. Now let's apply your own reasoning to it without arbitrarily dissociating pieces of information:
Sentence one speaks about underlings that have done well. Is it said devils or Kreegans? No, it isn't. Who are they? Couldn't they be some sorcerers (say, remnants from the Cult of Baa, of which you probably have no knowledge) who wanted to help their demonic/divine masters (as they percieve them) by providing them with usable fortification? They could. Are they really some sorcerers who wanted to help their demonic/divine masters by providing them with usable fortification? We don't know, the text isn't saying a word about that.
Sentence two says that the actions of the underlings mentioned in sentence one had resulted in an errection of a fort from the volcano. Thus the purpose of the volcano was to create a fort.
Sentence three is a brief strategicl overview, which says that the ultimate purpose of the actions described in the previous two sentences is the elimination of Eathia's allies, the elves of AvLee. Does it say anything about transforming the whole region into fiery wasteland as a final aim of the operation? It doesn't. Does it say anything more than what it is saying? It doesn't.
It's simple enough. Logically the Kreegans must eat more or less the same things as other biological creatures or else their multiplication and expansion would be no threat to those other creatures.Xenofex wrote: Have you played the Armageddon's Blade campaign? If you have, you should've noticed that there is next to no explanation of the actual purpose of Armageddon's Blade creation and that the story is being told mainly from Gelu's, Catherine's and Roland's point of view. Inferno's bit is presented by Xeron, who happens to be half-Kreegan. Lucifer Kreegan isn't given many opportunities to explain his actions - actually he almost doesn't speak of them. We know that Armageddon's Blade should "set the world on fire", but absolutely nothing else. From here the speculation can begin and as I said previously - the explanation that the Kreegans, after suffering two serious losses, wanted to get rid of the planet's natives quickly and efficiently is as good as any other. You are speculating, but without taking into account the actual lore of the M&M universe, i.e. you are creating a fan-fiction. Many people told you that already because it's a fact.
And among other things, we have no idea what do the Kreegans eat, if they eat at all. I can't remember a single line of text where it's said that they have digestive system similar to the humans'/mamals'/insects'/whatever. They are beings from outer space, for Baa's sake!
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