World Cup 2006

asandir · Unread postby **asandir** » 15 Jun 2006, 08:07

so who reckons that t&t will beat the english .... or even draw??

EDIT: I'm a ballroom dancer .... lol

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 15 Jun 2006, 21:02

Yay! Sweden won 1-0 against Paraguay after a wonderful goal by Fredrik Ljungberg!

Now all we have to do is to draw against the English. Shouldn't be a problem, we haven't lost to them in decades...

Kalah · Unread postby **Kalah** » 15 Jun 2006, 21:06

Go Sweden. Yey.

Oh, all right then. Yeey!

asandir · Unread postby **asandir** » 16 Jun 2006, 02:14

well, england won

2-0 over the t&t's

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 16 Jun 2006, 15:02

Argentina - Serbia 1:0

Another goal is probable before the end.

EDIT:Wow!6:0
Even I didnt expect that.

Thelonious · Unread postby **Thelonious** » 16 Jun 2006, 15:57

Wonder what Holland will do...

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 16 Jun 2006, 17:14

DaemianLucifer wrote: EDIT:Wow!6:0
Even I didnt expect that.

Just saw the score on TV. My father didn't belive me when I told him it ended 6-0. Poor Serbia.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 16 Jun 2006, 17:37

ThunderTitan wrote: Just saw the score on TV. My father didn't belive me when I told him it ended 6-0. Poor Serbia.

Considering we lost 5:0 from netherlands last time,I guess next cup it will be 7:0 against brazil

Cunning Death · Unread postby **Cunning Death** » 17 Jun 2006, 13:07

DaemianLucifer wrote:Argentina - Serbia 1:0

Another goal is probable before the end.

EDIT:Wow!6:0
Even I didnt expect that.

Well, Hungary's team already had similar exprience a few times.
I don't think anyone expected this.

Kalah · Unread postby **Kalah** » 17 Jun 2006, 18:42

Ghana caused a bit of an upset against favourites Czech republic. 2-0, and it could have been more...

Paulus1 · Unread postby **Paulus1** » 17 Jun 2006, 19:30

USA just equalized against Italy, thanks to a black out by one Italian defender.

But Italy should still win this one relatively easy.

Cunning Death · Unread postby **Cunning Death** » 17 Jun 2006, 19:35

Kalah wrote:Ghana caused a bit of an upset against favourites Czech republic. 2-0, and it could have been more...

now italy had all the odds...
and then america dominating, a surprising italian goal
now italy with 10 men..
this night's match starts to be interesting

ed.: and italy had the first big shot after the red card

Cunning Death · Unread postby **Cunning Death** » 17 Jun 2006, 19:45

and now an american out!

after so many shots on goal ...

Cunning Death · Unread postby **Cunning Death** » 17 Jun 2006, 20:05

that's though another american out
this match is the most exciting one till now

ed
1-1 is the final result
that was a really good match

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 17 Jun 2006, 20:59

Interesting game. To bad I missed the first 30 minutes

3 red cards in one game. I've seen worse in the world cup, but only once, and that judge shouldn't have been allowed near the field. This one knew what he was doing though.

Kalah · Unread postby **Kalah** » 17 Jun 2006, 21:33

Actually, this has happened three times before. Three players sent off in the World Cup, it has happened now a total of four times. Never have as much as four players been sent off, though - that would have been a new record.

For the record, the first card was correct and applause to the ref for that. The second was harsh. The third was correct. I think the ref lost a bit of control; the match varied in pace so much that he seemed to lose his concentration during various phases. A penalty should definitely have been awarded to Italy for that holding inside the box.

Paulus1 · Unread postby **Paulus1** » 17 Jun 2006, 21:52

IMO the second red card was appropriate.
No chance of reaching the ball, and he went with the wrong side of the boots first... these sharp things underneath... (doesn't know the english word

).

Kalah · Unread postby **Kalah** » 17 Jun 2006, 22:58

Studs.

When evaluating a tackle, the ref needs to take into consideration the following things:
- The tackler's speed/intensity.
- The tackler's position (on ball/on opponent).
- The tackler's chance to hit the ball.
- The tackler's intentions (is he trying to reach the ball?).
- Is the player's safety at risk?

In this case, the tackle was made before the ball reached the Italian player. The American therefore had no chance of knowing whether he had a chance to reach the ball. He tackled anyway, putting the player's safety at risk. This would suggest a red card, but the fact is that the tackler did hit the ball (as well as the player). In my opinion, points 2-4 become irrelevant at that point. The only thing that matters is the intensity of the tackle and the Italian's safety. Seeing the situation in replay doesn't help; you need to see it "live" and not in slow motion to be able to judge the intensity of the tackle. Doing that, you'll get an impression of what the tackle constitutes: a ruthless act or a dangerous one. There lies the difference between yellow and red.

Here, the rulebook is a safe haven for referees, because it is left to them to decide:
"Ruthless act: probability of yellow card increases. Excessive force: probability of red card increases".
So the referee is on safe ground either way, it all depends how he judges that tackle. The problem is that this was not the only tackle like this. Yet the ref didn't awards any of the others with a red card...

I think his biggest problem will not be the cards; he will certainly receive some praise for catching that first one. His biggest problem is not seeing the holding of Iaquinta two minutes from time. That should have been a penalty.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 17 Jun 2006, 23:03

I didn't watch this one, who got the cards?

Kalah · Unread postby **Kalah** » 17 Jun 2006, 23:07

1. Daniele De Rossi (Italy) - elbow. Should get a 3 matches supension.
2. Pablo Mastroeni (USA) - rough tackle studs first. In borderland. Guessing a 1 match suspension.
3. Eddie Pope (USA) - second yellow card when tackling from behind. Usual procedure is a 1 match suspension.

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