What should an expainsion inclued???

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Unread postby Gus » 09 Jun 2006, 11:35

DaemianLucifer wrote:[Yes he does.He has a different skin colour,different muscle and bone structure,different hair structure,and even different brain strructure.
oh.
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god.

you skipped biology classes, right?

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 09 Jun 2006, 12:17

Gus wrote: oh.
my.
god.

you skipped biology classes, right?
When I say different I dont mean they have herat cells in a brain or something like that.Monkeys differ from humans in just 3% of their genes,yet put those two next to each other and youd never think its such a small difference.So when I say that races differ in their body structure,I mean subtle differences.For example take sports:Its been proven that black people are better sprinters.That comes from the (subtle,but noticable) difference in their muscles.

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Unread postby Gus » 09 Jun 2006, 12:29

the structure is the same, the elements within may be different.
anyway, this is dragging off-topic, so i apologize.
just wanted to point out that the differences within the Human race are small, and not "structural".

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 09 Jun 2006, 12:36

They are small,but not smaller then the difference between royal penguin and some other penguin species.

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Unread postby Kiyoko » 09 Jun 2006, 13:02

I would like to see more special abilities. imo they are what makes battles interesting.

about the red/crystal dragons i suggest that they'd be renamed "Drakes" (as small dragons in WCIII) and make them smaller. there are already to many dragons in Tier 7.

an idea for a special ability for them would be "Swarm". This would attack a stack from all sides and the retaliation would be spread among random units in the attacking stack (ie if there are 5 attackers with 50 hp each and the retaliation would do 100 dmg the attackers might have 37, 50, 13, 22, 28 hp afterwards instead of 2 beeing dead and the rest att full health).

I'd also like to see a better interface for hero skills and abilities. it should be possible to see where a skill path will take me and what is required of me to reach a specific skill. right now it's pretty much impossible to know how to reach special or ultimate skills without using an external source of information.

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Unread postby Gus » 09 Jun 2006, 13:19

DaemianLucifer wrote:They are small,but not smaller then the difference between royal penguin and some other penguin species.
i don't know what's your definition of "species", but in my country, two "animals" belong to the same species if they can breed together and their offspring is not sterile.

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 09 Jun 2006, 13:28

Kiyoko wrote:I'd also like to see a better interface for hero skills and abilities. it should be possible to see where a skill path will take me and what is required of me to reach a specific skill. right now it's pretty much impossible to know how to reach special or ultimate skills without using an external source of information.
I doubt we'll ever see it in HOMMV, but I miss the paper-doll for heroes... what was so wrong with that to have it deleted in this version? Also, we are badly in-need of some sort of "MISC" slot for artifacts. A purse, bag or orb replacing a cape or boots is just silly.

Someone mentioned mummies earlier... speaking of which "I miss my Mummy". I'd rather have Mummies for Necromancers somewhere in the town, or at least a neutral creature generator. Oh well.

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Unread postby ExistUnExist » 09 Jun 2006, 13:53

instead of dwarven king
you can get Mountain King

Warcraft 3 style XD XD
LOL

for mp maps, i really think they should be able to set teams.... i mean, i wanted to play in a team with my brother, but we can't! why? coz there's only ffa! :'(

that's why if there's a map making tool, i'll make a really kewl one

a really fast (well, reasonable, so each can reach a reasonable army size) and bloody and intense map.. that's for sure


:D

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Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 09 Jun 2006, 13:59

There are modded maps that are 2vAll or 2v2v2v2 or somesuch.
They're basically the same maps we already have, but no longer FFA. Those maps replace the ffa ones tho so you'd have to delete them from the folder where you put them to restore the original ones.

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Unread postby ExistUnExist » 09 Jun 2006, 14:25

can't you change the file name?

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Unread postby ryanmax51 » 09 Jun 2006, 14:35

all i want in an expansion is a hole new campaign with maybe 2 or more races included one being the barbarian race, also more maps and maybe a few more artifacts.

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Unread postby 5il3nc3r » 09 Jun 2006, 14:41

ExistUnExist wrote:can't you change the file name?
I'm no expert modder, but I think if you change the filename, the game won't recognise it.

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Re: What should an expainsion inclued???

Unread postby Orfinn » 09 Jun 2006, 14:44

Jimmpi wrote:Just like the topic says..what should it inclued if you where to diside?
In my eyes it should be the following:

¤ Most/All the bugs.
¤ Some mod to creature stats like the devils speed etc
¤ 2 new towns:
- Dwarves that would look like this
lvl 1 Gnome/Gnome archer.
lvl 2 Boar/ Boar Rider
lvl 3 War Dwarf/ Berserker
lvl 4 Ice Hawk/ Frost Falcon or pegasus/silver pegasus..
lvl 5 Red dragon/ Crystal Dragon
lvl 6 Dwarven Warlord/ Dwarven King
lvl 7 Hill Giant/ Frost Giant

- And Stronghold that would look like this
lvl 1 Goblin/Hobgoblin
lvl 2 Orc/Orc Berzerker
lvl 3 Wolf Rider/Warg Raider
lvl 4 Ogre/Ogre Shaman (Ogre Magi)
lvl 5 Roc/Thunderbird
lvl 6 Behemoth/Ancient Behemoth
lvl 7 Cyclops/Cyclops King

¤ LOTS more maps and bigger maps
¤ A map maker tool
¤ Some more campain
¤ Better AI

Any thoughts on what I would se? Any thing I forgot or any thing that I think should be in that you dislike?
Nice, nice, nice!

Only some small changes. We dont want the "500 kings" syndrome again right? :devious:

Dwarven Lord/ Dwarven Warlord

Cyclops/Mountain Cyclops

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Re: What should an expainsion inclued???

Unread postby ThunderTitan » 09 Jun 2006, 16:10

Orfinn wrote:Mountain Cyclops
How about NO.... jeez, King isn't nowere as bad as to justify that.

And If you use Frost Giant as a upgr, don't use Hill Giant as the base, just use Giant, or Ice Giant. Hill goes with Mountain.

And I really dont see the Cyclops as a higher lvl then the Behemoth. Either reverse them, or use something else in the Behemoth's place.
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Re: What should an expainsion inclued???

Unread postby Wolfshanze » 09 Jun 2006, 17:41

ThunderTitan wrote:And If you use Frost Giant as a upgr, don't use Hill Giant as the base, just use Giant, or Ice Giant. Hill goes with Mountain.
We've seen far-less related upgrades in towns before (even sex-changing upgrades). There's nothing wrong with Hill Giant to Frost Giant... at least I've heard of both... what the heck is an Ice Giant?

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Re: What should an expainsion inclued???

Unread postby ThunderTitan » 09 Jun 2006, 17:47

Wolfshanze wrote: There's nothing wrong with Hill Giant to Frost Giant... at least I've heard of both... what the heck is an Ice Giant?
Same thing a Hill Giant is. Something that was made up in the last 50 years. If D&D can use storm giants why can't i use ice?

And just because some ingame creature make no sense doesn't mean we should add to it.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 09 Jun 2006, 19:14

Gus wrote: i don't know what's your definition of "species", but in my country, two "animals" belong to the same species if they can breed together and their offspring is not sterile.
Lets see...The classification by species,families,types,etc was something I learned in biology some 7 years ago.So I may use these terms differently then they should be used.But what I meant is that a difference between two different races of men arent any bigger than,for example two different types of spider.Even between the spider as big as a hand and a mycroscopic one.

Frost giant is way better than ice giant.

And how about cyclops -> biclops? :D

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 09 Jun 2006, 20:48

So, changed dwarven king and cyclops king now..hope people is happy now.. ;)

one thought i just got..does anyone fron ubi ever looks at this site?

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Unread postby MistWeaver » 09 Jun 2006, 21:24

What should an expainsion inclued???
S.N.O.W. !!

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Unread postby Ethric » 09 Jun 2006, 21:41

Weeded out some bullshit, and DaemianLucifer and ThunderTitan are not allowed to post in this thread again.

And that'll be warning #284576 or so about hijakcing topiced threads. There won't be to many more warnings.
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