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[Veldrynus]

Not being able to afford a game, or anything else in this world, is not excuse for being a thief. Suck it up and accept that you can't have certain things you spoiled brats.

I wonder what your opinion would be, if you were living in my country, earning the local average income? I am sure, you wouldn't post such arrongant and ignorant garbage.

[King Imp]

Not being able to afford a game, or anything else in this world, is not excuse for being a thief. Suck it up and accept that you can't have certain things you spoiled brats.

I wonder what your opinion would be, if you were living in my country, earning the local average income? I am sure, you wouldn't post such arrongant and ignorant garbage.

Keep telling yourself that that's a rational excuse for illegal activity. If you say it long enough, you may actually believe it.

[Wildbear]

I wonder what is the most criminal between selling some games half the average income in some countries or sometimes playing with pirated copies.

[Vlaad II]

Not being able to afford a game, or anything else in this world, is not excuse for being a thief. Suck it up and accept that you can't have certain things you spoiled brats.

Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Ethric]

There are numerous goods for sale all over the world that most people can't afford. I have things I want that I can't afford, I'm sure most other people do too. But seeing as the things I can't afford aren't really things I need in my life, I accept it. Even though there are rich people that can afford said things, I don't think that justifies stealing them.

If we were talking about life necessities (that a great number of people in the world sadly lack), it would be a different story.

[theLuckyDragon]

An idea occured to me, and I think I had it formed even before I started reading this thread: they're just games... Why do people give them so much importance? Is it really worth paying for them? On the other hand, is it really worth going through all the fuss to download them, apply cracks, risk (however small the chance) being caught, know that what you're doing is essentially wrong and unfair towards the game makers, reagardless of any socio-economical aspects?...

But the implications of this question are well beyond the topic of this thread...

[King Imp]

I love how people had no problem supporting 3DO when they bought Heroes 3, but as soon as they don't approve of the direction Ubisoft took with Heroes 5, they label them as a "monopolistic company" that doesn't deserve to make any money.

Like I said, the connection between those that don't like H5 and those that condone illegal activity are one in the same. Amazing how that happens to be.

[theLuckyDragon]

And what pray tell would be the consequences of such a connection? If they don't like it, they why in the world would they download it? Maybe they'll change their minds and adore it?

[Veldrynus]

Keep telling yourself that that's a rational excuse for illegal activity. If you say it long enough, you may actually believe it.

I do believe what I am saying. Don't worry.

Let's think real.

Yes, it is illegal activity, just like dealing with drugs, stealing millions, murder, rape, etc... But can we put piracy of games in poor countries, in the same cathegory with these ? I don't think so ! What do you think, how high is the amount of financial losses caused by piracy, for game producers in these regions ? Almost ZERO. They know (or should) that games with the actual prices, cannot be sold here. With or without piracy the profit they realize is way to small to be significant. This makes piracy a very HARMLESS crime.

Honestly, how many times did we do illegal/immoral things in our lifes ? Most times we just say "It is harmless", "It is nothing" or "Everybody does it". When driving a car do you ALWAYS act EXACTLY acording to the regulations ? I know nobody who does so. Is this simillary harmless ? No. People could DIE !

What I am trying to say is, that noone of us is completely innocent, therefore it is hypocritic to call people criminals (or krimals) for minor illegal activities.

[DaemianLucifer]

Wrong. I would not. I actually have a sense of morals, even if a majority of the world feels it's irrelevant. And of course if you declare that morality is irrelevant, there's going to be no "evil." But I disagree that morality is irrelevant here.

Moral varies from person to person.You know that some people find it immoral to eat meat,for example.

Not being able to afford a game, or anything else in this world, is not excuse for being a thief. Suck it up and accept that you can't have certain things you spoiled brats.

Spoiled brat?Tsk,tsk!I think you should really question yourself before you say something like that next time.

[ThunderTitan]

Like I said, the connection between those that don't like H5 and those that condone illegal activity are one in the same. Amazing how that happens to be.

Yup, people really hate not paying for crappy products. The fact that they can get it for free must make them very mad for throwing away all that money....

I think that sums it up for me: a complete disregard for morality and the feelings of others is wrong.

Well that makes everybody wrong, because ur disregarding someones morals and feelings by simply breathing.

I just looked at the Frozen Throne EULA, and it allows you to put one copy of the game on a computer. It also forbids renting or making money off of having the game on your computer. It forbids having multiple copies of the game on different computers.

So if i have 2 computers i'm doing something illegal. If I instal the game on a Laptop to take it with me when I leave my home it's ilegal.
And the EULA isn't legaly binding anyway as you only sign it after you actualy pay for the game.

[Campaigner]

Something I've noticed is that poor people (located in 3rd world) are defending piracy while the people in the western world are condemning it

I want piracy to be destroyed forever, (In one of my posts on the Nforce forum I wished FBI good luck in shutting down the release groups) but as long as it exists and people get things for free then I want a piece of the action.

[theLuckyDragon]

Anyone from the 3rd world here?...

[Campaigner]

I thought Yugoslavia was the 3rd world....don't know the definition but its actually fun to be a little arrogant sometimes

[theLuckyDragon]

From my knowledge, there's no such thing as Yugoslavia anymore. I think it's called Serbia, but the people living there are much more entitled to tell us.

Anyhow, I don't think you can compare that area of Europe with, say, Somalia or Rwanda or other tiny African nations where's there's been hunger/war/disease for a long time.

[Gaidal Cain]

Technically, Yugoslavia was a "Second world" country, or in other words, a communist state. That classification is largely outdated as of now though.

[ThunderTitan]

From my knowledge, there's no such thing as Yugoslavia anymore. I think it's called Serbia, but the people living there are much more entitled to tell us.

Serbia-Montenegro actualy. And Bosnia-Hertegovina, I think. Yugoslavia got broken up in a couple of countries.

@GC
I doubt the USSR was considered a 2nd world country. Being a superpower kinda prevents that.
I belive the word is developing country.

[DaemianLucifer]

Its serbia and montenegro,for the time being.And Im not sure were a 3rd world country.True,we dont have much of an average income(about 150-200$),but most of the people arent starving,and have a roof over their heads,and I think that is what separates 3rd world countries from the rest.

@Gaidal Cain

Socialist country,to be more precise.

@ThunderTitan

5 countries:bosnia and herzegovina,macedonia,croatia,slovenia and yugoslavia,now known as serbia and montenegro.

[Gaidal Cain]

@GC
I doubt the USSR was considered a 2nd world country. Being a superpower kinda prevents that.
I belive the word is developing country.

Maybe you ought to look up a term next time before putting your foot in your mouth:
Wikipedia's article on "Second world"

[Kareeah Indaga]

And Im not sure were a 3rd world country.

Of course you are! And so is Australia, and so is England, and China, and France, and the United States. If they weren’t, they’d be on Mars (4th world country) or Venus (2nd world country) or at least the moon (3.1 world country).