Heroes VI creatures proposal

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 28 Apr 2006, 08:33

Mod Note: The discussion of names and languages has been split off to here

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 13:12

Heres my idea for dwarves:

Slinger -> master slinger(pebble rain)
Axe wielder -> berzerker(berzerked,whirlwind attack)
?
Dwarven warrior -> dwarven elite(regeneration)
Aprentice(beneficial spellcaster) -> runemaster(ranged,spellcaster,earthquake)
?
Mountain giant(ranged,scater shot,50%cold resistance,stun) -> frost giant(ranged,scater shot,cold immunity,bash,freeze)

I just need two more fillers.Im not going to suggest some stupidities though.

Pebble rain is similar to archers special.

Berzerked means that when berzerker hits its first target,you loose control over him and every turn after that he goes to attack.
Whirlwind attack strikes all enemies around(like war dancer).

Aprentience should have stone skin and one other beneficial spell.
Runemasters ranged attack is magical,so it can be ressisted with MR,and he has some beneficial spells.
Earthquake drains all of runemasters mana.It does high damage to all the walls on the field,and it has a chance of stunning all of nonmechanical walkers(including yours).

Giants throw rocks,thats why their shoots scater damaging all of the adjacent units.They can also target walls.
Bash means that the frost giant deals portion of damage to all the targets adjacent to his initial target,and he has a chance of stunning all of them.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 28 Apr 2006, 13:31

You could also use better names.

Maybe instead of Slinger you can go with a Halfling (you can say they're related to the Dwarves).
And Hill Giant -> Mountain Giant makes more sense namewise.
D. Warrior -> D. Champion
And maybe Loremaster instead of Rune Master!

And the missing 2 should be creatures, not Dwarves.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 13:53

ThunderTitan wrote:You could also use better names.

Thats why you guys are here for anyway

ThunderTitan wrote: Maybe instead of Slinger you can go with a Halfling (you can say they're related to the Dwarves).

I thought about that,but since there should be a dominant race,I went with a dwarven slinger instead of halflings.

ThunderTitan wrote: And Hill Giant -> Mountain Giant makes more sense namewise.
D. Warrior -> D. Champion
And maybe Loremaster instead of Rune Master!

Yes,those sound nice.

ThunderTitan wrote: And the missing 2 should be creatures, not Dwarves.

Thats what I was thinking.But I couldnt come up with good creatures,so I left it blank.

As for the speciallty of the hero,he could have mining.A chance to find precious resources,ore or gold every day.Jis ultimate could double the defense of his creatures.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 13:55

How about frost wolf -> dire wolf for lv3

both have res cold and open wounds, dire wolf also have blood lust and maybe rabies

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 14:20

Damn!This proposal shouldve gone to the expansion thread.Oh,well.Ill put it there if you guys fill it.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 28 Apr 2006, 14:37

Wolf -> Dire Wolf is good for lvl3...

And I'd rather have the Halfling at lvl1, three are enought creatures for a race/town. And if ur gonna put it in the expansion thread ur gonna need a Dragon for them to worship.

And they could use a flyer. Maybe a Roc or something. Or Frostbird/Frostwing. And that way they can worship the Water Dragon.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 14:43

Earth dragon is the most logical choice for dwarves.But,like you said,if they get connected with ice,then water dragon would suit them fine.Maybe Roc -> frostwing would be a good idea(it doesnt have to turn to thunderbird always).

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 28 Apr 2006, 14:54

I belive Sylvan already has Earth. And the Roc (arabic) is a completly different creature from the Thunderbird (native american) anyway. Of course Roc fits more in steppe terrain then on a mountain. If anyone can come up with something better, please do.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 15:10

Well it could be some kind of a giant eagle.But there has to be a better name then just giant eagle.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 15:23

here are some suggestion, none of them are really good:

great eagle, mountain hawk, storm raven, blizzardbird

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 15:25

Well,storm raven sounds better than the rest.But still...

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 28 Apr 2006, 16:56

Maybe this will help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:L ... _creatures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:D ... _creatures
Also, Roc were also called Rukh. Isn't that what they once called the Rakshasa?
Hmm... Rocs are supposed to be white, so they might fit as a Frostbird.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 17:22

so this is what the gorgon in heroes 3 really is, this creatures is also in castlevania games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catoblepas

why don't they just use that name? as gorgon is supposed to be a medusa (technically it's the other way round)

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 28 Apr 2006, 17:28

Gorgon sound better. And it's also the name they used in D&D. But they should just call them Mighty Moos.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 17:41

ThunderTitan wrote:Gorgon sound better. And it's also the name they used in D&D. But they should just call them Mighty Moos.

i wonder why normal gorgons don't have death stare...

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 21:58

does anyone like the idea of a bug-town maybe called the swarm or the hive

they could have fire ants, spiders, serpent flies, scorpions, scarabs, giant worms and their lv 7 could be the mantise

they would be very weak but their special would be overwhelming numbers

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:06

And the hero would be overmind?

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:08

DaemianLucifer wrote:And the hero would be overmind?

the heroes could be an intelligent species of flying bug-like humanoids (yeah right)

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:13

BenchBreaker wrote:
DaemianLucifer wrote:And the hero would be overmind?
the heroes could be an intelligent species of flying bug-like humanoids

Why?Why wouldnt inteligent mantases be heroes?Why do all inteligent aliens have to be humanoid?

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