That which we call a sprite...

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 25 Apr 2006, 21:02

You screwed up that link.

And they're tree spirits, oak tree actualy. Whatever D&D or medieval poets did to them is irrelevant, we already have Pixie/Sprites as tree spirits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryads

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BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 25 Apr 2006, 21:11

hehe,

try searching on thesaurus.com

1 entry found for dryad.
Main Entry: nymph
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: girl
Synonyms: damsel, dryad, fairy, floozy, girl, goddess, jailbait, lass, maid, maiden, mermaid, naiad, nymphet, sprite, sylph, tart, tootsie
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

4 entries found for pixie.
Main Entry: elf
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: fairy
Synonyms: brownie, elfin, fay, leprechaun, nisse, pixie, sprite
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

Main Entry: hairstyle
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: style
Synonyms: afro, beehive, blow dry, bob, bouffant, braid, brush cut, bubble, bun, butch, coiffure, crew cut, cue ball, cut, do, dreadlocks, ducktail, eggbeater, feather cut, flattop, flip, fuzz cut, haircut, hairdo, headdress, horse tail, Mohawk, natural, pageboy, pigtails, pixie, ponytail, poodle cut, punk, rat's nest, razor cut, skinhead, streaked
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
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Main Entry: imp
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: rascal
Synonyms: brat, demon, devil, deviling, devilkin, elf, fiend, gamin, gnome, gremlin, hellcat, hellion, minx, pixie, puck, rascal, rogue, scamp, sprite, troll, tyke, urchin, villain
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

Main Entry: playful
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: fun-loving
Synonyms: antic, blithe, cheerful, coltish, comical, elvish, flirtatious, frisky, frolicsome, funny, gamesome, gay, go-go, good-natured, happy, hilarious, humorous, impish, jaunty, jesting, jocund, joking, joyous, kittenish, lighthearted, lively, merry, mirthful, mischievous, peppy, pixie, prankish, puckish, roguish, rollicking, snappy, spirited, sportive, sprightly, teasing, tongue-in-cheek, vivacious, waggish, whimsical, zippy
Antonyms: serious, solemn
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

look at the 3rd entries of pixie, it's more a imp than a dryad, out of all those words found in pixie there is no mention of dryad and vice versa. what makes a imp the little winged devil-like creature? it could also mean fairy, but it's things like popular culture, books and games that enforce the devil like idea.

my point is that most mythological creatures takes different forms because they are not real, they are what we believe they are, a dryad could mean the same as a pixie but it doesn't have to be, for instance in wc3 the dryad is like a female/elven centaur

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 26 Apr 2006, 10:53

BenchBreaker wrote: try searching on thesaurus.com

Spare me. Dryads are tree spirits, not "jailbait"... and figures of speech and misconceptions don't apply, thesaurus or not. And Sprite was there.
If were really gonna go there I might as well call the MGW a Mermaid.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:47

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: try searching on thesaurus.com
Spare me. Dryads are tree spirits, not "jailbait"... and figures of speech and misconceptions don't apply, thesaurus or not. And Sprite was there.
If were really gonna go there I might as well call the MGW a Mermaid.

repeat after me: dryads does not exist

Thelonious · Unread postby **Thelonious** » 26 Apr 2006, 19:12

ThunderTitan wrote:If were really gonna go there I might as well call the MGW a Mermaid.

And with that your going waaaaaay outta line. (For those of you who do not know what TT means with MGW - it's the Mutated Giant Whale. And that he's plain horror.) Mermaids supposed to be pretty dude. Not mutated...

theLuckyDragon · Unread postby **theLuckyDragon** » 26 Apr 2006, 19:29

It's correct title is Mutated Gaint Whale. Seriously, Thelonious, I was expecting better of you...

@vicheron
Really nice ideas for the town. As DL said, the name should be changed. I especially like the concept of the Crones/Hags... So similar in certain ways with the Evil Eyes in H4 (pun intended, DL!

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ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 10:36

BenchBreaker wrote: repeat after me: dryads does not exist

Repeat after me: neither does mermaid, that doesn't mean you can call a flying dog-pig a mermaid.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 27 Apr 2006, 11:59

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: repeat after me: dryads does not exist
Repeat after me: neither does mermaid, that doesn't mean you can call a flying dog-pig a mermaid.

Sure you can.Nothing prevents me from calling you an imp.In fact,from now on,Ill be doing that

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 27 Apr 2006, 12:21

ThunderTitan wrote: Repeat after me: neither does mermaid, that doesn't mean you can call a flying dog-pig a mermaid.

my point exactly, ever seen that sprite commerical/advert? does the sprite in it look like a tree spirit to you?

sure it will be silly to call a flying dog-pig a mermaid, but that's because mermaids are very popular legend, much more so than the dryad and ppl have very clear ideas about what a mermaid looks like, as for the dryad, few ppl have even heared of it(certainly less than the mermaid), let alone know what it is.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 18:33

BenchBreaker wrote: Blabers on about how people are stupid.

Just because the people where ur from never heard about dryads doesn't change the fact that Dryads are tree spirits. Even in WC3 they were asociated with forests, giving them animal bodies was just so they wouldn't look like the elves (like the pixie/sprite looks in H5).

Blaspheme · Unread postby **Blaspheme** » 27 Apr 2006, 18:37

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: Blabers on about how people are stupid.
Just because the people where ur from never heard about dryads doesn't change the fact that Dryads are tree spirits. Even in WC3 they were asociated with forests, giving them animal bodies was just so they wouldn't look like the elves (like the pixie/sprite looks in H5).

Uhm... Warcraft morphs every creature into another-version.. please don't take warcraft as an example! Wendigo's, Dryads, Ogres, Succubi and many others creatures are morphed into child-friendly versions of their former self... Goblins have NOTHING to do with mechanical things, warcraft made that up to make them unique. The Dryad from warcraft is known as HINDE in mythology, a female with the lower body of a deer.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 19:39

Blaspheme wrote: Uhm... Warcraft morphs every creature into another-version.. please don't take warcraft as an example!
Goblins have NOTHING to do with mechanical things, warcraft made that up to make them unique. The Dryad from warcraft is known as HINDE in mythology, a female with the lower body of a deer.

Actualy it made Goblins mechanics to oppose them to the Alliances Dwarves in WC2.

And I was saying that EVEN WC3 had the Dryads asociated with the forest, and we already have Pixies/Sprite as tree spirits.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 27 Apr 2006, 21:40

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: Blabers on about how people are stupid.
Just because the people where ur from never heard about dryads doesn't change the fact that Dryads are tree spirits. Even in WC3 they were asociated with forests, giving them animal bodies was just so they wouldn't look like the elves (like the pixie/sprite looks in H5).

look at who's quoting things ppl haven't said, you've got a real good imagination, no wonder you know that the dryads are tree-spirits

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 27 Apr 2006, 21:46

Blaspheme wrote:Nice and all.... But aren't there ANY new special abilities?? I hate those OVER-used same special abilities being used over and over again... Can't believe people like that....

what are you talking about?

BenchBreaker wrote: Abilities
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siege - ignore range & obstacle pen
wooden - take 1/4 damage from arrows (not all ranged, just arrows) but takes 3x damage from fire
defender - double bonus when defending
offensive/defensive fs - first strike when attacking/defending respecively, creatures with first strike has both off fs and def fs
courageous - resist fear and lessen the effect of bad moral
mischievous - when the creature attacks, if its stack has more hp than the defending stack then the enemy can't retalliate
quick reflex - ignore first strike & evade missile
torture - reduce target moral when attacking
avenger - retalliation does double damage
consume corpse - attack a dead stack to recover health, creatures eaten disappears and cannot be revived, amount of creatures eaten depends dead stack hp and damage done.
open wonds - same as poison but also works on poison immnue creatures, also creatures effected by it recives double damage form vampires.
swarm - does extra damage depending on total attacking stack hp - total defending stack hp
floating - fly over some obsticles (e.g. land mine) but not walls.
lycanthropy - when attacking lv 1-4 creatures, chance to convert some of them to your side by changing them into werewolves, the converted werewolves joins the stack. similar to ghosts in I,II and wog
howling moon - dramatically increase in power during 13th-18th of each month
power shot - does double damage at close range
rabies - similar to posion, but is contagious
incinerate - create firewall for a few rounds in target area

and there are many other new abilities, but their names make their effects quite obvious so i just didn't bother to list and explain them all.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 21:53

BenchBreaker wrote: no wonder you know that the dryads are tree-spirits

Oh, for crying out loud. It's bloody greek mythology. I know because I actualy read something, and not just invented it and stole a name I saw in WC3.

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 27 Apr 2006, 21:57

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: no wonder you know that the dryads are tree-spirits
Oh, for crying out loud. It's bloody greek mythology. I know because I actualy read something, and not just invented it and stole a name I saw in WC3.

Yes,it is bloody all right

.Anyhow,99% of the creatures in fantasy worlds derive from this or that mythology(not counting the ones made simply by enlarging existing animals).I can think of only few exceptions.Mind flayers and aboleths from AD&D.

BenchBreaker · Unread postby **BenchBreaker** » 27 Apr 2006, 22:26

ThunderTitan wrote:
BenchBreaker wrote: no wonder you know that the dryads are tree-spirits
Oh, for crying out loud. It's bloody greek mythology. I know because I actualy read something, and not just invented it and stole a name I saw in WC3.

maybe i've been too sarcastic, and we are going no where with all this sarcasm. you are not wrong, and i am not saying that the dryad can't be a pixie, but there is no need for you to be so fixated about the idea that a dyrad must be a pixie/sprite. like i mentioned before, the soft drink Sprite is a product of the coca-cola company, a big multi-national corporation, surely they'll now what a sprite looks like, but what do you see in their Sprite advert? a small monkey/gollum like creature that's green! and in that advert they said: "you might think the spirit is a thirst quenching soft drink, but it is also a sort of goblin” and that thing looked no where like a goblin, but who am I to say what a goblin looks like?

like DL said, most mythical creatures are inspired from this and that, and many of them takes different forms in different fantasy worlds, unless they are uber popular like the mermaid, they don't have to take a definite shape. as long as it's relatively close to it's original description, it'll be fine, now i did put it in the nature town and not inferno/death town didn't i?

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 22:45

Oh, you missunderstand. A Dryad must be a tree spirit. A Pixie doesn't, it just have to be a little elf-like. But if Pixies are tree spirits the poor Dryad gets left out.

You want to change a creature, change the Pixie, not the Dryad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie_%28folklore%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_%28creature%29

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 27 Apr 2006, 22:46

Actually,even the oh so popular mermaid has two versions.Half fish one and half bird one.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 27 Apr 2006, 22:51

DaemianLucifer wrote:Actually,even the oh so popular mermaid has two versions.Half fish one and half bird one.

Another bloody example of people confusing stuff. The half bird is a Siren. Also Greek mythology.

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