Elemental Mod for MM7 -- v4.0 open beta

[Lone_Wolf]

More than that, it shoots an equipped ranged weapon even in melee range, which I added early on to retain an ability to fire blasters and wands in melee. This is also what happens if no quick spell is set at all, so any unset quick spell key is actually a "shoot in melee" key.

Why do you want extra quick spell keys specifically to not work like that? In vanilla you also could make Heal a quick spell, and accidentally hit someone when out of mana, and if I change that, people used to vanilla could be surprised instead.

I like things to be consistent and expect a quick spell key to do just one thing : cast a spell
The s-key allows selecting 1 spell that will be cast before its other actions.

Checking mm7 reference card it seems there are no dedicated quick spell keys.

It probably comes down to whether the extra keys are meant to work as shortcuts to allow easier casting or additonal s-keys

That's a design decision and you appear to have chosen the latter.


Another question

Chest traps have only a 50% chance to be disarmed if the skill is exactly equal
to trap difficulty (which is always even), making odd skill values more useful.

This works for normal level, but expert disarm doubles skill and is always even .
For disarm master the statement is also incorrect.

example :
assume trap level is 22


N 22 fails in 50%, N23 always succeeds
E 11 fails in 50% , E12 succeeds always
M7 fails 50%, M8 always succeeds

Do I misunderstand the mechanic ?

[Tomsod]

Checking mm7 reference card it seems there are no dedicated quick spell keys.

It probably comes down to whether the extra keys are meant to work as shortcuts to allow easier casting or additonal s-keys

Ah, good point, the manual does describe S as a "combo" key with quick spell only being the first option! I'll think on it.

example :
assume trap level is 22

N 22 fails in 50%, N23 always succeeds
E 11 fails in 50% , E12 succeeds always
M7 fails 50%, M8 always succeeds

Do I misunderstand the mechanic ?

I meant skill after the expert/master multiplier. M7 = 21 effective skill, it will always fail in your example, while M8 = 24 always succeeds (and may even disarm a stronger trap). Likewise with E12 = 24; you're right that it can never be odd at expert. Also note that bonuses to disarm from items, hirelings, etc. are also multiplied in the mod, unlike vanilla where expert and master only affect the base skill value.

[Mortis]

Hi, which file shoud be edited to fix problem with dodge skill?
In vanilla game and unfortunately in merge project, monks are able to dodge only arrows, while both your mod and MAW let them dodge also melee attacks and spells.

[Tomsod]

Hi, which file shoud be edited to fix problem with dodge skill?
In vanilla game and unfortunately in merge project, monks are able to dodge only arrows, while both your mod and MAW let them dodge also melee attacks and spells.

It's in the program code, so I had to patch mm7.exe, and since Dodging isn't in MM8, Merge should have some script that adds this behavior, which is what must be edited there. (Also in my mod, player-style spells still can't be dodged, just the various elemental projectiles.)

[Lone_Wolf]

I just got the fairie ring and noticed it no longer is 'of air magic' but the much weaker 'of air affinity' .

Checked other special items with 'of foo magic' and they haven't been reduced to affinity .

For example the ghost ring is also available early in the game and the haunted mansion chest it is in had its lock level lowered from 12 to 8.
So the ghost ring is now easier to get then in vanilla but hasn't been weakened.

Do you feel the faerie ring was too strong ?

[Tomsod]

It was too strong for how easy it was to obtain (no fights, and the lock level is even lower, 6). Also I wanted to place an affinity item somewhere. Ghost ring is fine, since you need to fight weapon-immune wraiths, and the locks got easier since in my experience 12 was sky-high for the game stage when it's typically cleared (I don't remember ever not eating the traps there).