Early MM Party Question

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Early MM Party Question

Unread postby Kareeah Indaga » 29 Jul 2007, 21:28

What classes where Resurectra, Kastore and company? Near as I can tell,

Crag Hack is a Barbarian—of course.
Sir Caneghem is a Paladin—I think I saw that in a manual for one of the pre-MM6 games, though I'm not sure.
Kastore is a Warlock (Druid)—his counterpart/clone in H2 was a Warlock.
Maximus is a Knight—for the same reason as Kastore.

I would gather Resurectra is some type of spellcaster as she’s opposite Kastore, and Sir Caneghem and Maximus are opposite each other and they both seem to be might-based classes, but that isn’t really enough to draw a valid conclusion from.

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Re: Early MM Party Question

Unread postby darknessfood » 29 Jul 2007, 22:36

Kareeah Indaga wrote:What classes where Resurectra, Kastore and company? Near as I can tell,

Crag Hack is a Barbarian—of course.
Sir Caneghem is a Paladin—I think I saw that in a manual for one of the pre-MM6 games, though I'm not sure.
Kastore is a Warlock (Druid)—his counterpart/clone in H2 was a Warlock.
Maximus is a Knight—for the same reason as Kastore.

I would gather Resurectra is some type of spellcaster as she’s opposite Kastore, and Sir Caneghem and Maximus are opposite each other and they both seem to be might-based classes, but that isn’t really enough to draw a valid conclusion from.
I dunno what you are talking about, be more specific like telling wich MM you are talking about ;)

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Unread postby ywhtptgtfo » 30 Jul 2007, 02:19

Tolberti is an Archer
Robert the Wise is a Druid

I think Resurrectra's a Cleric and Kastore is a Sorcerer. Dark Shade is probably a Rogue.

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Re: Early MM Party Question

Unread postby Avonu » 30 Jul 2007, 07:10

Kareeah Indaga wrote:What classes where Resurectra, Kastore and company?
Here you go:

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Interesting thing is that Crag Hack is Dwarf, Maximus Half-Orc and both Dark Shade and Resurectra are Gnomes.

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Unread postby Kareeah Indaga » 30 Jul 2007, 14:03

Thank you. :-D

Maximus I can see as a Half-Orc, the rest…

I wonder if they were changed in MM7 because there weren’t Gnomes and Half-Orcs in MM7, or if the design team preferred them as two Humans and an Elf.

Also, I’ve never played the earliest MMs—were Tolberti and Robert the Wise hirelings, or were they just added in MM7 so the people who played 1-3 didn’t have to kill off their old party members?
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Unread postby Avonu » 30 Jul 2007, 15:46

IIRC they were added in MM7. I don't remeber hirelings (or NPCs) with these names in MM3 or in MM4-5.
I wonder if they were changed in MM7 because there weren’t Gnomes and Half-Orcs in MM7, or if the design team preferred them as a Human and two Elves.
Check yourself:
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and Resurectra from MM7 video (she is on top, near Magnus):
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She doesn't look like Gnome.

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Unread postby Kareeah Indaga » 30 Jul 2007, 16:10

Avonu wrote:
I wonder if they were changed in MM7 because there weren’t Gnomes and Half-Orcs in MM7, or if the design team preferred them as a Human and two Elves.
Check yourself:
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EDIT:
and Resurectra from MM7 video (she is on top, near Magnus):
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She doesn't look like Gnome.
I know, I was speculating on the reason for the change not whether or not there was one. But thank you, anyway. :)

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Unread postby Avonu » 30 Jul 2007, 16:28

Probably because it was easier/cheaper to animated some Humans or Elves models with are also in some taverns animations (or it was MM8?) than create new ones only for two Gnomes and one Half-Orc.

There is also one more explanation - magic plus Ancient's technology - maybe Resurectra and Dark Shade were pissed off being not tall and handsome, so they decided to plastic surgery? :D

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Unread postby UndeadHalfOrc » 31 Jul 2007, 19:11

Kastore looks identical to all male elves seen in MM7 movies (except the bearded one)

Resurrectra looks identical to the other female in the very movie shown here.

Tolberti and Robert the Wise are weird in their way, not appearing in MM3 and being the only advisors you can actually fight. I made them quite a bit stronger in my MM7 monster patch, to make them deal heavy unblockable dark/light damage respectively. (While still being able to eradicate)


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