HOMM4: Million-GP Auction
- Gaidal Cain
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Agree with Banedon. the new rule promotes inflation. When it was posted, the Chain mail was below 100 gold, which I think was a fitting price. Now everything will be very overpriced. A better rule had been to give 10000 gold to anyone who had won anything in the first three lots, and not announce until after it was done.
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- DaemianLucifer
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Got my Gryphonheart armor for 16.000pepak wrote:I wonder, why are you guys bidding so much on items from lot #3? I mean, chainmail sold for 1010 and Longbow for 1000 - how does it compare to Wizard Ring for 200 or Apprentice's Handbook for 500? Scarab of Summoning seems rather expensive, too, as do many others. Are these your real estimates of the things' values or are you just bidding because you've wanted that item in the beginning and now you can't stop despite the price?
Oh and I give 600 for Ring of Protection
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My understanding is that you only have to win any item in any of the first five lots to get the 5000 bonus. Why not win an item you actually like?Banedon wrote:No, it's because of the new rule. If I bid 1010 for the Chainmail and I get it, I've actually made a profit of 3990 (versus the case I don't bid for anything). That's why I don't like the rule.
Anyway, it was just an attempt to get some discussions here, not just bids.
I didn't think it would inflate Lot #3. There are still Lot #4 and Lot #5 for the 5k bonus. The real reason is to get more bidders in the game. We only had 11 winning bidders at that time. The ammount of winning bidders is how I'm determining how much money everyone gets (the whole idea was to keep the auction at around 1 million GP total.Gaidal Cain wrote:Agree with Banedon. the new rule promotes inflation. When it was posted, the Chain mail was below 100 gold, which I think was a fitting price. Now everything will be very overpriced. A better rule had been to give 10000 gold to anyone who had won anything in the first three lots, and not announce until after it was done.
With more winning bidders, we have more people playing the game. People that played in the first five rounds (and won) should have more money than those that started later. It's that simple. If they are trying to BLOCK people, they will pay far more for their items and will far less for later bids.
Don't pay more than you're willing to spend. My ultimate hope is to have over 30 different winning bidders. That would be a successful game!
NOTE: Also, by awarding money to people who win bids, it rewards activity. I don't want thirty people trying to "wait out" the auction in the hopes that they can clean up later.
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WOW! Opening Lot #4 really did close Lot #3. I'll open Lot #5 a lot sooner
NEW RULE!!!! Anyone who has won a bid in the first five lots will be getting a $5000 bonus!!! The 5000 bonus will be available in lot #4 for anyone who has bought at least one item in the auction!
Cashflow currently not available... Please police yourselves until Lot #3 goes final - I plan an update later tonight.
Bids begin and go in minimal increments of 10 (Treasure and Item), 20 (Minor), 50 (Major), and 100 (Relic). Please offer or raise more than the minimum.
Lot #4 Open - Lot#3 Closing!
Third Lot (item, type, placement, description, bidder, current bid)
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Chain Mail, Item, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 8. It also decreases movement by 1 and increases the casting cost of all spells by 1 point. Gaidal Cain, 1010
Longbow, Item, Ranged, Increases the hero's Ranged Attack by 5. ThunderTitan, 1000.
SOLD! Mage's Staff, Item, Two-Handed, Reduces the mana cost of all spells by 1 point. Uses both the left and right hand slots. Fyl, 850.
RE-SOLD! Crystal Figurine, Minor, Miscellaneous, Gives +1 crystal per day when equipped by a hero. Wimfrits, 1650
David's Sling, Treasure, Ranged, All friendly creatures do 50% more ranged damage to level 4 enemies. Gaidal Cain, 1070.
Scarab of Summoning, Relic, Neck, Increases the power of the hero's summoning, raise, and illusion spells by 100%. Kalah, 19000.
Mayhem Staff, Major, Two-Handed, All Chaos direct damage spells do 50% more damage. Uses both the left and right hand slots. ThunderTitan, 4550.
SOLD! Armor of Order, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 20, and also grants them Chaos Ward. Tao Jones, 6000.
SOLD! Gryphonheart's Plate Mail, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 30. Orfinn, 16,000.
SOLD! Bag of Gold, Treasure, Miscellaneous, Gives +500 gold per day when equipped by a hero. Sir William S Titan, 6000.
Fourth Lot (item, type, placement, description, bidder, current bid)
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Shield, Item, Left Hand, Gives the hero +3 Melee and Ranged Defense, DaemianLucifer, 520.
Horseshoe, Treasure, Miscellaneous, All friendly targets get +1 luck, ThunderTitan, 1010.
War Sling, Treasure, Ranged, Increases the hero's Ranged Attack by 10, Vlad976, 1760.
Arrow of Stunning, Treasure, Miscellaneous, The hero's ranged attack has a chance of Stunning the target, depending on the damage done and the toughness of the target, ThunderTitan, 1010.
Giant Slayer, Minor, Right Hand, Increases the hero's Melee Attack and Melee Defense by 3. The hero does double melee damage against level 4 creatures, ThunderTitan, 1020.
Purse of Gold, Treasure, Miscellaneous, Gives +250 gold per day when equipped by a hero, Sir William S Titan, 10,000.
Staff of Summoning, Major, Two-Handed, Reduces the cost of creature summoning spells by 50% with a minimum cost of 1 point. Uses both the left and right hand slots, DaemianLucifer, 1100.
Unnatural Armor, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 20, and also grants them Nature Ward, wimfrits, 2200.
Helm of Command , Major , Head, All friendly targets get +20% to their Melee and Ranged Attack, +20% to their Melee and Ranged Defense, and +1 to their speed, Echo_, 7000
Ring of Protection, Treasure, Ring, Increases the Melee and Ranged Defense of all friendly targets by 20%, Echo_, 3000.
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Two Lots to get the bonus bucks!!!
Don't worry... there will be more bonus bucks awarded in the next five lots.
NEW RULE!!!! Anyone who has won a bid in the first five lots will be getting a $5000 bonus!!! The 5000 bonus will be available in lot #4 for anyone who has bought at least one item in the auction!
Cashflow currently not available... Please police yourselves until Lot #3 goes final - I plan an update later tonight.
Bids begin and go in minimal increments of 10 (Treasure and Item), 20 (Minor), 50 (Major), and 100 (Relic). Please offer or raise more than the minimum.
Lot #4 Open - Lot#3 Closing!
Third Lot (item, type, placement, description, bidder, current bid)
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Chain Mail, Item, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 8. It also decreases movement by 1 and increases the casting cost of all spells by 1 point. Gaidal Cain, 1010
Longbow, Item, Ranged, Increases the hero's Ranged Attack by 5. ThunderTitan, 1000.
SOLD! Mage's Staff, Item, Two-Handed, Reduces the mana cost of all spells by 1 point. Uses both the left and right hand slots. Fyl, 850.
RE-SOLD! Crystal Figurine, Minor, Miscellaneous, Gives +1 crystal per day when equipped by a hero. Wimfrits, 1650
David's Sling, Treasure, Ranged, All friendly creatures do 50% more ranged damage to level 4 enemies. Gaidal Cain, 1070.
Scarab of Summoning, Relic, Neck, Increases the power of the hero's summoning, raise, and illusion spells by 100%. Kalah, 19000.
Mayhem Staff, Major, Two-Handed, All Chaos direct damage spells do 50% more damage. Uses both the left and right hand slots. ThunderTitan, 4550.
SOLD! Armor of Order, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 20, and also grants them Chaos Ward. Tao Jones, 6000.
SOLD! Gryphonheart's Plate Mail, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 30. Orfinn, 16,000.
SOLD! Bag of Gold, Treasure, Miscellaneous, Gives +500 gold per day when equipped by a hero. Sir William S Titan, 6000.
Fourth Lot (item, type, placement, description, bidder, current bid)
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Shield, Item, Left Hand, Gives the hero +3 Melee and Ranged Defense, DaemianLucifer, 520.
Horseshoe, Treasure, Miscellaneous, All friendly targets get +1 luck, ThunderTitan, 1010.
War Sling, Treasure, Ranged, Increases the hero's Ranged Attack by 10, Vlad976, 1760.
Arrow of Stunning, Treasure, Miscellaneous, The hero's ranged attack has a chance of Stunning the target, depending on the damage done and the toughness of the target, ThunderTitan, 1010.
Giant Slayer, Minor, Right Hand, Increases the hero's Melee Attack and Melee Defense by 3. The hero does double melee damage against level 4 creatures, ThunderTitan, 1020.
Purse of Gold, Treasure, Miscellaneous, Gives +250 gold per day when equipped by a hero, Sir William S Titan, 10,000.
Staff of Summoning, Major, Two-Handed, Reduces the cost of creature summoning spells by 50% with a minimum cost of 1 point. Uses both the left and right hand slots, DaemianLucifer, 1100.
Unnatural Armor, Major, Torso, Increases the hero's Melee and Ranged Defense by 20, and also grants them Nature Ward, wimfrits, 2200.
Helm of Command , Major , Head, All friendly targets get +20% to their Melee and Ranged Attack, +20% to their Melee and Ranged Defense, and +1 to their speed, Echo_, 7000
Ring of Protection, Treasure, Ring, Increases the Melee and Ranged Defense of all friendly targets by 20%, Echo_, 3000.
Waiting for a bid
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Two Lots to get the bonus bucks!!!
Don't worry... there will be more bonus bucks awarded in the next five lots.
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If I were a flower, I'd be a really big flame-throwing flower with five heads.
If I were a flower, I'd be a really big flame-throwing flower with five heads.
Because some people (like me) are saving for a particular artifact. I like the Mayhem Staff, but if I bid 5,000 for it I may not have enough money for that other artifact. Bidding 1,000 for the Chainmail gives me 29,000 total for that artifact.pepak wrote:My understanding is that you only have to win any item in any of the first five lots to get the 5000 bonus. Why not win an item you actually like?
Anyway, it was just an attempt to get some discussions here, not just bids.
Also, some people don't like any artifact sufficiently to bid high for it. If I get the Chainmail for 1,000 I'd reap 4000 extra cash; if I get the Mayhem Staff for 5,000 I'd be slightly more happy but have no extra money.
Unnatural Armor to 3,000.
Helm of Command to 7,500.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. You should be able to get a very good item at a pretty good price. In most cases, people are dropping too much for the early artifacts, especially lots #1 and lot #3. The influx of new bidders helped a little but mostly I think it was because their weren't other items to bid on...Banedon wrote:Because some people (like me) are saving for a particular artifact. I like the Mayhem Staff, but if I bid 5,000 for it I may not have enough money for that other artifact. Bidding 1,000 for the Chainmail gives me 29,000 total for that artifact.pepak wrote:My understanding is that you only have to win any item in any of the first five lots to get the 5000 bonus. Why not win an item you actually like?
Anyway, it was just an attempt to get some discussions here, not just bids.
Also, some people don't like any artifact sufficiently to bid high for it. If I get the Chainmail for 1,000 I'd reap 4000 extra cash; if I get the Mayhem Staff for 5,000 I'd be slightly more happy but have no extra money.
Unnatural Armor to 3,000.
Helm of Command to 7,500.
If ten people pop 500 gp items up to 5000, you will actually be making out better than those folks. Make quality bids and you should get something you like in these two lots. The truth is that some people are going to have to start conserving their money since they "overspent" already. It doesn't matter if it was a key item or otherwise.
Oh yeah... Kalah's got the Scarab. Consider it sold. I'll post an update soon.
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