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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 15:53

BenchBreaker wrote:i don't think there will be enough dragons bones in supply, since the necromancers also use them, so the red dwarves secretly use metals instead of dragon bones and still chrage to wizards the same price, and use your arguement to get away with it ;)
*sigh*!Another one :disagree:

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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 15:59

Thelonious wrote:Anyways, yeah that cyclops upgrade needs a better name, but you think of one. And the balance could indeed be better. And though that giving the bite attack to the Wargraiders as well would make 'em to cheesy.
what's wrong with good old cyclops king?
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 16:01

BenchBreaker wrote: what's wrong with good old cyclops king?
Aside the fact that theyd need some inteligence to form a kingdom,having 200 kings die in one battle is just stupid.

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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 16:10

well that would be the same with lords, queens, chiefs, captains...

nothing can be perfect...
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 16:18

BenchBreaker wrote:well that would be the same with lords, queens, chiefs, captains...
Queens and chieftains are stupid to use as well.Imagine queen isabel marching with hundred of something queens :disagree: Captains can pass since you can have lots of them in the army.Lords can pass as well,since in the middle ages a big part of the army were lords.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 01 May 2006, 16:19

DaemianLucifer wrote: Aside the fact that theyd need some inteligence to form a kingdom,having 200 kings die in one battle is just stupid.
Tell that to the Irish...

Makes more sense then Warrior. At least you can say that that's what they call the more powerfull strain of Cyclops.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 16:21

ThunderTitan wrote: Tell that to the Irish...
Still way less then 200+ at once.

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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 16:33

that's why cyclops should be lv 7 so you can't get 200 easily

an army consisting entirely of captains is still weird... there will be no one to take orders :sceptic:
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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 01 May 2006, 16:33

DaemianLucifer wrote: Still way less then 200+ at once.
Yeah, because 200 B.Dragons wouln't darken the sky. And i'm also pretty sure that there is only 1 Matriarch per family/clan, so why aren't you complaining about that one.

But Cyclops King doesn't really sound that good anyway.
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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 16:36

how about biclops? or mutated gaint cyclops?

seriously maybe elder cyclops?
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 16:43

ThunderTitan wrote: Yeah, because 200 B.Dragons wouln't darken the sky. And i'm also pretty sure that there is only 1 Matriarch per family/clan, so why aren't you complaining about that one.
Who says Im not?Im against all those stupid names.Im against upgrades mostly because of this.Behemot -> ancient behemot.you use a ghost dragon in order to age them?Red dragon -> black dragon.So if I repaint my car it will become faster? :disagree:

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 01 May 2006, 16:47

DaemianLucifer wrote:dragon -> black dragon.So if I repaint my car it will become faster? :disagree:
Well if ur hair becomes gray will you be older?! I don't like upgrades coz they're kinda pointless.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 16:49

ThunderTitan wrote:I don't like upgrades coz they're kinda pointless.
That too.

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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 17:00

that's why there should be random upgrades - only those that makes sense

e.g. most of the human ones

EDIT: come to think of it maybe upgrades should be a human specialty instead of trainig, training don't make too much sense.

upgrading most creatures don't make much sense.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 01 May 2006, 17:03

BenchBreaker wrote:EDIT: come to think of it maybe upgrades should be a human specialty instead of trainig, training don't make too much sense.
Now that is an excelent idea.But that would mean that humans would be different from other towns,and we dont want that,now do we?

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Unread postby BenchBreaker » 01 May 2006, 17:35

every town should be different, they don't even have to have the same number of creatures as long as the game is balanced

also i want to see 1000hp titans!
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Unread postby Thelonious » 02 May 2006, 08:20

DaemianLucifer wrote:
ThunderTitan wrote:I don't like upgrades coz they're kinda pointless.
That too.
Count me in aswell.

Well for most of the cases. Really the chaotic creature line would be a nice feature in HoMM VI, but heck, that's not HoMM III so...
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Unread postby dragonn » 02 May 2006, 09:20

ThunderTitan wrote: I don't like upgrades coz they're kinda pointless.
I just can think of Heroes without upgrades, it's a kind of symbol for me, nevertheless, although they weren't any in HI and H4, I like to play those games and the fact there aren't any upgrades does not stop me from playing them :D

PS: And yeah, Blaspheme, leave the dwarves alone :D

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Unread postby Thelonious » 04 May 2006, 13:57

And the point TT and DL are makign is that in Heroes the upgrades are pointless as the upgrades are allways better, so they are no brainers. You just upgrade your creatures. The thing we get in return are all sort of stupid names. :disagree:

That's why upgrades are pointless ;)
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 04 May 2006, 16:05

Thelonious wrote:And the point TT and DL are makign is that in Heroes the upgrades are pointless as the upgrades are allways better, so they are no brainers. You just upgrade your creatures. The thing we get in return are all sort of stupid names. :disagree:

That's why upgrades are pointless ;)
Not just because of that,but because they require only money.If there was a need for some battle expirience for a creature to upgrade,some stupid names could pass.But even then,chaotic upgrades would be much better(something like in disciples).


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